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Old 05-31-2008, 07:52 AM
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empress superdelay

Quietest delay I've played. Quieter than the Cornish TES. Voiced to perfection, just the right amount of roll off with the low pass filter engaged, perfect subtle warble on the slow modulation setting. For what I like, and I've been through a lot, this is my favorite. I'd take this over even the TTE.

Probably the closest I've heard (and feels right too) to a tape echo - haven't even touched the other modes as the tape setting with the 3 different modes provides all the color i'd ever need.

sounds great in the loop or in front. i'll do some clips with overdrive today.

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Old 06-01-2008, 12:48 AM
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sounds good.... real real good
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Old 06-01-2008, 04:19 PM
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Old 06-01-2008, 04:45 PM
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Hey Lou, great sounds from that Super delay, and great playing too. The repeats sound awesome.
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Old 06-01-2008, 04:53 PM
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So how does the Superdelay compare to the Timeline?
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Old 06-01-2008, 05:12 PM
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So how does the Superdelay compare to the Timeline?
Both are some of the finest units I've used - sound quality right up there with the TES, TTE, EC.

I did quite a bit of comparing trying to figure out which to keep, here are some of the differences:

From a versatility standpoint, the Timeline has potentiometers controlling most parameters vs the Superdelay's 3 position switches for repeat filter and modulation, and the Timeline does give more control over the repeats via filter, smear, grit, and has both depth and intensity for the modulation. That said, the Superdelay happens to sound fantastic with it's switches, Steve dialed this thing to absolute perfection, at least for my taste.

From a sound quality standpoint, I prefer the Superdelay for the clean tones, and the Timeline for overdriven leads. The Timeline's grit and filter control allow for some very thick and smooth repeats that melt into high gain creamy lead tones. The Superdelay on clean tones is truly a thing of beauty - any of the tape modes, with the low pass filter and the slow mod setting produces great atmospheric tones.

I prefer the modulation on the Superdelay as it just sounds right to me - in tape mode it doesn't sound like chorus added to the repeats, it sounds like tape warble. The Timeline is nice as well, but clearly sounds like chorus added to the repeats.

Both units have true bypass - I do like what the Timeline's tubes did in my effects loop - just added some thickness and volume to the tone when engaged, whereas the Superdelay is a bit more transparent.

From a feel standpoint, the Timeline's smear function was very cool - while the Superdelay doesn't have that per se, the tape mode definitely has some compression going on and again evokes the feel of a tape unit.

Both units appear to be built very well, and both are quiet other than the Timeline with the grit control turned up.

Both great units, I ended up keeping the Superdelay as it just has something special in the tone and feel of the repeats that sets it apart from most other delays, and I mostly use delay on clean tones. While the Superdelay sounds great on overdriven tones as well, if I spent most of my time playing higher gain leads, I might have kept the Timeline.
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Old 06-01-2008, 05:21 PM
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Thanks for the highly detailed review Lou. As I said, the repeats on the Superdelay on your clips sound simply beautiful.
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Old 06-01-2008, 06:55 PM
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Lou,

It seems you've been on a delay quest as of late. Have you ever owned the TTE, what are your pros and cons to that unit?
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Old 06-01-2008, 09:31 PM
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Lou,

It seems you've been on a delay quest as of late. Have you ever owned the TTE, what are your pros and cons to that unit?
Hey Jason, Hope you've been well.

I owned a TTE briefly, the second to last circuit revision. Beautiful sounding unit. While it was too long ago for me to provide any in depth comparisons, I will say that I like the tones in the Superdelay as much as the TTE - I didn't keep the TTE simply due to the cost/size/tape and head maintenance/mechanical tape noise - I have no regrets and would take the Superdelay over the TTE, and the Cornish TES as well. Truly a magical unit.
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Old 06-02-2008, 05:03 AM
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Nice!

I was going to pick one up but pulled for the ML2 first.

Still plan on getting one though, but gotta wait for some finances to recover...
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Old 06-02-2008, 09:31 AM
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Nice!

I was going to pick one up but pulled for the ML2 first.

Still plan on getting one though, but gotta wait for some finances to recover...
I'll be interested to hear your thoughts on the ML2 compared to the Superdelay.
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Old 06-02-2008, 10:04 AM
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Anyone know a good place to order one of these and what's the current wait?
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Old 06-02-2008, 10:08 AM
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Anyone know a good place to order one of these and what's the current wait?

I ordered mine directly through the Empress website. Steve answered all questions quickly and thoroughly. Mine in enroute, and I hope to have it this week.
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Old 06-02-2008, 08:09 PM
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Lou,

Thanks for the helpful info!


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Hey Jason, Hope you've been well.

I owned a TTE briefly, the second to last circuit revision. Beautiful sounding unit. While it was too long ago for me to provide any in depth comparisons, I will say that I like the tones in the Superdelay as much as the TTE - I didn't keep the TTE simply due to the cost/size/tape and head maintenance/mechanical tape noise - I have no regrets and would take the Superdelay over the TTE, and the Cornish TES as well. Truly a magical unit.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:57 AM
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I just placed an order last night. :NUTS

I'm hoping this will replace my DD20 and Analogman modded DMM. I love the DMM, but the noise does get to me when playing alone. I think I'm more of a tape echo guy, but don't want the hastle of maintaining one. The tape mode sounds excellent on this unit.
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