santana + dumble question

[SoulToStrings]

Can you guys help me figure out which CD, or CD's Santana plays a dumble on?

is it good? I heard he uses less gain which would be interesting in my opinion.

Thanks,
STS
www.soultostrings.com
Melodic instrumental guitarist

[LVC]

His late nighties and beyond.


Shaman

are some examples

Originally Posted by SoulToStrings

Can you guys help me figure out which CD, or CD's Santana plays a dumble on?

is it good? I heard he uses less gain which would be interesting in my opinion.

Thanks,
STS
www.soultostrings.com
Melodic instrumental guitarist

[SoulToStrings]

Thanks LVC, appreciate it. I did not know supernatural was dumble. I am listening to it now, I knew some songs sure sounded like it.

How's that fuchs ods?! Man do u have or know of any recordings or cd's with an ods?

I don't have shaman , is it good by santana?

[maxVsf]

Santana's Dumble use came AFTER Supernatural. Shaman was the first. The Dumble used was an Overdrive Reverb that had been brought up to current specs in the early nineties. I loaned him that amplifier.

[amc]

Originally Posted by maxVsf

Santana's Dumble use came AFTER Supernatural. Shaman was the first. The Dumble used was an Overdrive Reverb that had been brought up to current specs in the early nineties. I loaned him that amplifier.

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[gtrfinder]

Originally Posted by SoulToStrings

I heard he uses less gain which would be interesting in my opinion.

Santana's Dumble tone sounds pretty gainy to me.
Listen to the first Eric Clapton "Crossroads" DVD where he does "Jingo" with EC.

[LVC]

Originally Posted by maxVsf

Santana's Dumble use came AFTER Supernatural. Shaman was the first. The Dumble used was an Overdrive Reverb that had been brought up to current specs in the early nineties. I loaned him that amplifier.

Yeah you are correct my bad (should have gone back and listen to a couple of cuts from the albums first) ----

there is a significant difference between the tones of "The Game of Love" and "Smooth" --- "Game of Love" definitely has that ODS smoothy flavor to it.

[LVC]

Originally Posted by SoulToStrings

Thanks LVC, appreciate it. I did not know supernatural was dumble. I am listening to it now, I knew some songs sure sounded like it.

How's that fuchs ods?! Man do u have or know of any recordings or cd's with an ods?

I don't have shaman , is it good by santana?

I really like that album a lot .... I am sure you have heard tracks from it ---- "The Game of Love" is the track that got a lot of airplay --- very classic ODS tone.

[LVC]

Originally Posted by SoulToStrings

Thanks LVC, appreciate it. I did not know supernatural was dumble. I am listening to it now, I knew some songs sure sounded like it.

How's that fuchs ods?! Man do u have or know of any recordings or cd's with an ods?

I don't have shaman , is it good by santana?

Yep
Great one that shows you the flexibilty of the amp is Grand Central by Jeff Golub -- all the tracks except for one or two I believe were done with a fuchs ODS

http://www.jeffgolub.com/jgnewcd.html

[jay42]

Originally Posted by LVC

"The Game of Love" is the track that got a lot of airplay --- very classic ODS tone.

That's one of the last things he recorded with the Boogie, afaik.

maxVsf -- if you either bought it new or dealt with HAD on the upgrade, please tell us about how that worked. There's a lot of heresay about how he works with a customer...not a lot of first hand commentary.

[doc]

So he was using a Boogie on Supernatural? Which one and what cabs?

[LVC]

Originally Posted by jay42

That's one of the last things he recorded with the Boogie, afaik.

maxVsf -- if you either bought it new or dealt with HAD on the upgrade, please tell us about how that worked. There's a lot of heresay about how he works with a customer...not a lot of first hand commentary.

Well it sounds pretty good to me.... maybe I am still a Boogie Mark I guy at heart....(played Boogies for years before I got a Fuchs). Tone on "The Game of Love" closer to what I would associate with an ODS style tone.

Been playing "the Game of Love" for a while with my band --- and the Fuchs/59R combo pretty much nails that tone ---

The other 2 tunes I really like on the Shaman album (for tones that I associate with ODS ) are -- "Why Don't You & I" as well as "Victory is won" ....

[maxVsf]

Originally Posted by LVC

Well it sounds pretty good to me.... maybe I am still a Boogie Mark I guy at heart....(played Boogies for years before I got a Fuchs). Tone on "The Game of Love" closer to what I would associate with an ODS style tone.

Been playing "the Game of Love" for a while with my band --- and the Fuchs/59R combo pretty much nails that tone ---

The other 2 tunes I really like on the Shaman album (for tones that I associate with ODS ) are -- "Why Don't You & I" as well as "Victory is won" ....

Laz - I think previous poster may be right about the MkI on Game of Love. It was great hearing that version with Tina Turner, huh? The amp tone I dig on Shaman is the last cut - with Placido Domingo.

[LVC]

Originally Posted by maxVsf

Laz - I think previous poster may be right about the MkI on Game of Love. It was great hearing that version with Tina Turner, huh? The amp tone I dig on Shaman is the last cut - with Placido Domingo.

Tina Turner version is the one I listen to. OK maybe I got my albums confused. I like both versions -- but Tina rules.. and we play the horn stabs like in the Tina version.

the singer in my band is killer -- we start playing out in the fall again --- woman singer in my band sounds just like Chaka.

[maxVsf]

Originally Posted by jay42

That's one of the last things he recorded with the Boogie, afaik.

maxVsf -- if you either bought it new or dealt with HAD on the upgrade, please tell us about how that worked. There's a lot of heresay about how he works with a customer...not a lot of first hand commentary.

When I acquired the amp, I was negotiating with Alexander for a new one. Then he returned this one to a friend after finishing the mods. It was unbelievable. The friend had to sell shortly after, and I acquired it. So, I can't really comment on Alexander's procedures in working with a client. In my limited contact with him, I found him to be an interesting, funny, talented, nice guy, extremely intelligent - some say genius. Sorry I can't be more helpful.