Looking for a low cost TIM alternative? I found it . . .

[traynor_garnet]

I don't like most OD pedals because whenever I step on one it sounds like somebody else suddenly appeared in the room with a new rig. This is why I loved my TIM pedal. Ultra transparent, sounds like my amp, great pick response. Absolutely amazing for low volume practicing (still sounds like my amp) or a "more" switch when playing louder.

I sold my TIM right before xmas but was planning on getting another. In the meantime I picked up a Danelectro Transparent OD on a lark. It's a pretty good od (see the many posts) but not in the same league as the TIM. I've used it a few times but basically put it away after that.

Last night, however, I pulled it out and ran it into my Danelectro Fish and Chips EQ. My GOD, this combo is incredible!!!!! Seriously, with the Dano EQ (probably they most underrated pedal on the market) I can dial out some of the Transparent OD's mids and boost the high and low end to match my amp's dry eq curve/sound. This combo is seriously one of the best low gain dirt solutions I have ever heard; unbelievably responsive to picking and perhaps smoother than the TIM on low gain settings.

I'm leaving the Trans OD's tone in the middle, gain very low, and volume at unity to my amp. All I can say is wow, it sounds like my amp distorting not like I plugged into something different when I hit the switch.

I'm going to play around a bit more today. I REALLY wish I had my old TIM here to do a direct A/B comparison. Regardless of the price, this is an amazing combo; at $65 for both Dano pedals, it is unbelievable.

[gearboy]

I picked up the TOD and the Drive, and am very impressed by both......all the output and gain you could want, metal casing and true bypass.........on the cheap!

[stephen_b]

yeah.. someone around here (with an aussie accent) has a demo of that claiming it to be a Klon Killa'.

[rossowj]

hmmm, i really want to try it out. thanks for the info!

[traynor_garnet]

You need the EQ with it to really dial it in. The pedal is great by itself, but goes to another level with the EQ. Make sure to pick up a Fish and Chips EQ as well.

TG

[sleejay80]

Man, those Dano pedals...

I have the Tuna Melt, everyone knows about that, and the PB&J which is a digital delay, very "useable", especially when I'm packing light for a short acoustic gig.

I hear the Cool Cat lines are awesome too, those Dano engineers must be something, eh?

[mrface2112]

I will have to give this a try!

I've got an old Dano fabtone that i've had since 94 or so, and i tell you what.....i put it away for a few months then pull it back out and it blows me away. i've done that with it for 14, 15 years now. it's currently back in the drawer, eagerly awaiting the next time i pull it out and get blown away by it.


cheers,
wade

[jpagey]

Isn't the Tim already "low cost"?

[PaulC]

I put the FX loop in the Tim pedal because I used an old MXR 10 band EQ after it. Those things didn't have foot switches, so putting in the loop was a nice way of having the tim turn off the EQ when i was in bypass - it cut down on the tap dancing.

EQ's are great before/after overdrives. A lot of times you may find that you already have what you're looking for in an od if you had a little bit extra eq control.

Later, PaulC
myspace.com/paulcaudio

[steinwand]

Originally Posted by jpagey

Isn't the Tim already "low cost"?

+ a gazillion
for what you get the Tim and Timmy are the best bang for the buck there is

[traynor_garnet]

Originally Posted by jpagey

Isn't the Tim already "low cost"?

Relatively, yes and of absolute great value. I may still buy another.

But, if you don't want to wait and don't want to pay inflated used prices this little combo is truly amazing. And even though the TIM/Timmy are a truly great price when purchased new (thank you Paul C), this Dano combo is still less than half the price.

TG

[traynor_garnet]

Originally Posted by PaulC

I put the FX loop in the Tim pedal because I used an old MXR 10 band EQ after it. Those things didn't have foot switches, so putting in the loop was a nice way of having the tim turn off the EQ when i was in bypass - it cut down on the tap dancing.

EQ's are great before/after overdrives. A lot of times you may find that you already have what you're looking for in an od if you had a little bit extra eq control.

Later, PaulC
myspace.com/paulcaudio

I specifically bought my Dano Fish and Chips EQ to use with the TIM. Turns out the TIM was so transparent, and its own eq was so useful, I didn't need an EQ in the loop! Truly an amazing pedal Paul and thanks for taking my post for what it is (i.e. in no way putting down your wicked pedal).

TG

[PaulC]

Originally Posted by traynor_garnet

I specifically bought my Dano Fish and Chips EQ to use with the TIM. Turns out the TIM was so transparent, and its own eq was so useful, I didn't need an EQ in the loop! Truly an amazing pedal Paul and thanks for taking my post for what it is (i.e. in no way putting down your wicked pedal).

TG

I didn't think you were putting my stuff down at all. Actually it's kind of nice hearing that it took two pedals to equal mine The only thing that's a drag is knowing that i don't have the means to make stuff as cheap as Dano and others can. If I could make these cheaper I would do it, but it takes BIG money to be able to make stuff cheap. I can't even buy the parts for a tim pedal for what the danos go for. It's a scary thing trying to stay in biz making hand made stuff while being worried about overseas mass produced stuff (which can be just as good) pricing you out.

But that's what everybody is dealing with right now - it's not unique to what I'm doing so i can't cry about it to much.

Later, PaulC
myspace.com/paulcaudio

[nibus]

Originally Posted by PaulC

I didn't think you were putting my stuff down at all. Actually it's kind of nice hearing that it took two pedals to equal mine The only thing that's a drag is knowing that i don't have the means to make stuff as cheap as Dano and others can. If I could make these cheaper I would do it, but it takes BIG money to be able to make stuff cheap. I can't even buy the parts for a tim pedal for what the danos go for. It's a scary thing trying to stay in biz making hand made stuff while being worried about overseas mass produced stuff (which can be just as good) pricing you out.

But that's what everybody is dealing with right now - it's not unique to what I'm doing so i can't cry about it to much.

Later, PaulC
myspace.com/paulcaudio

Paul - you could ask double the price on your pedals and they would still be a bargain.

[traynor_garnet]

Originally Posted by PaulC

I didn't think you were putting my stuff down at all. Actually it's kind of nice hearing that it took two pedals to equal mine The only thing that's a drag is knowing that i don't have the means to make stuff as cheap as Dano and others can. If I could make these cheaper I would do it, but it takes BIG money to be able to make stuff cheap. I can't even buy the parts for a tim pedal for what the danos go for. It's a scary thing trying to stay in biz making hand made stuff while being worried about overseas mass produced stuff (which can be just as good) pricing you out.

But that's what everybody is dealing with right now - it's not unique to what I'm doing so i can't cry about it to much.

Later, PaulC
myspace.com/paulcaudio

Man, you are the last guy on this board that needs to apologize for your pricing! You make a phenomenal product at an absolutely great price.

Funny that my lecture this week is on the social ills of globalized production and then you and I end up having this conversation. It is a sad state of affairs all on the backs of impoverished labour (I'll stop there because I don't want this thread pulled).

I would much rather pay more and support you. Does the Timmy sound exactly like the TIM? One of the reasons I sold the TIM was because I never used the boost or loop and wanted to free up space; the Dano setup sounds great but has hardly saved any real estate on the board

TG