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Old 02-06-2009, 04:33 PM
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Calling All Fender Guru's

I finally opened up my bandmaster a while ago, 1963 6g7A, with the precense everything...The transformer codes were as follows PT:125P19A, the Output was 125P19A, and the choke was 125C1A.... When I searched these on the net, the transformer chart found http://www.unclespot.com/FenderXFMRchart.html ...here... says those are incorrect and from various other fender amps...so I'm thinking great, I got a chop job.... but then I search the net again and find this ebay ad http://cgi.ebay.com/1963-Blonde-Fender-Bandmaster_W0QQitemZ180326233098QQcmdZViewItemQQim sxZ20090205?IMSfp=TL090205152005r23260 which is also for a 1963 Blonde Bandmaster, but of the Blackface AB763 variety. Listed are the transformer numbers which were identical to those in my 6g7A, is this just a result of the Leo transition and using a bunch of different parts.... I just find it odd cuz the chart doesn't have those numbers listed for the 763 Blackface model either.... So, does anyone know whats up with this...guy I bought it from was the only owner and says nothing was changed but the light and tubes....this one has me stumped ....
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Old 02-06-2009, 04:51 PM
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PT:125P19A, the Output was 125P19A
You listed the power and output with the same numbers??

125p19a is a power trafo. Check the output trafo #'s again...
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Old 02-06-2009, 05:26 PM
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You listed the power and output with the same numbers??

125p19a is a power trafo. Check the output trafo #'s again...
Sorry the output is 125A6A
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Old 02-06-2009, 05:34 PM
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the 63blonde/blackface which is on ebay also claims to be all original...so I doubt it is a coincidence....Looks like its just a result of the transition no?
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Old 02-06-2009, 05:48 PM
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A 125P19A p/t goes to an AB763 Twin Reverb with 7591 tubes, per the chart.
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Old 02-06-2009, 05:57 PM
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yea i saw that too....but look at the ebay page....same year blonde bassman, except mines a blonde circuit and thats a blackface...yet they have the same OT and both owners claim them to be original
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Old 02-06-2009, 06:28 PM
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I just cant see that as a coincidence, and Leo was nitorious for swapping parts...
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Old 02-06-2009, 07:24 PM
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More Info: Under each of the model numbers is a what i believe to be the date code....Under the PT it reads '606305', under the Output it reads '606319' and under the choke it reads '606327' which would mean that each component was manufactured by shumacher="606", in 1963='3', in the various weeks ascribed by the last two numbers.....The date code on the tube chart "MH" dates it to August of '63....which dates all transformers made before the amp itself

BTW...the 63 on ebay with the blackface PT which is 125P19A also dates to the fifth week of 63...with a date code of 'MJ' dating it in October...2 monthes after mine

This really has me stumped.....

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Old 02-07-2009, 12:40 AM
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anyone have any insight?
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Old 02-07-2009, 01:46 AM
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anyone have any insight?
According to the schem's in Aspen Pittman's Tube Amp book

A 6G7-A would normally have the following :

PT - 67233
Choke - 125C1A
OPT - 45217

Since yours is a ' 63(early, is my guess..) you have the AB763 OT.

Maybe it was replaced, but, it's probably original, per the year .
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Old 02-07-2009, 11:44 AM
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According to the schem's in Aspen Pittman's Tube Amp book

A 6G7-A would normally have the following :

PT - 67233
Choke - 125C1A
OPT - 45217

Since yours is a ' 63(early, is my guess..) you have the AB763 OT.

Maybe it was replaced, but, it's probably original, per the year .

Its actually from August of 63....so it would be right before the switch
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Old 02-08-2009, 07:22 PM
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anyone else know anything or have an opinion????
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Old 02-08-2009, 08:02 PM
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Fender never just threw away old parts when in transition so Fender had some hybrid amps along the way... I would not worry about it and of course the main thing is does it work? Does it sound good (great)?
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Old 02-08-2009, 08:57 PM
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yea it definately sounds great. Fits my style perfectly...I'm honestly more curious than anything... I also just found it odd that the chart has this PT listed for 7591 tubes, yet it obviously runs on the 5881/6l6....however, the blonde AB763 circuit one also has this some PT and runs on 5881/6l6's as well
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Old 02-09-2009, 09:05 PM
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