on/off volume pot in loop

[spazmonkey]

Hi guys, just testing the waters too see if this is an idea that might work. I've been working for some groups and need to boost leads substantially and have tried vol. pedals and boost pedals in the fx loop and was wondering if it would be possible to put a passive box in the loop, what I'm thinking is just a simple on/off switch with a vol. pot, I'll leave it down a bit for rhythm and turn it off for leads to get the boosted effect for lead work. It seems simple enough and pretty darn inexpensive. A friend of mine is gonna build it, think it might work?...

[83stratman]

Yes, it will work.

[Rosewood]

I don't see any problem with that, may change the tone a little.

[RockStarNick]

That's a great idea. What value pot would you need for this kind of setup, since it's a line level signal?

[zombiwoof]

Why not just use a 6 band EQ like an MXR or similar that has a bypass switch? You wouldn't have to build anything, and you could leave the sliders flat or adjust them for the rhythm sound, turn it off to get full-bore lead sound? I've heard of guys doing that, not necessarily in the loop but it should work there as well as in front of the input.

Al

[Austinrocks]

personally use a volume pedal in the loop, easier to adjust, just another pedal, trying to adjust a knob not easy, stage is dark, amp is over there, and volume pedals can be set for min to max range, so I don't turn off the amp, and i can hear where I am on the pedal, knob has to be adjusted by hand those are busy.

lots of these around, suck knob is one, check ebay and you will see tons for $15

[ericb]

That's what Lyle from Psionic Audio had I believe. . I'd much prefer that over any volume pedal, eq etc also. Amps should already have that built in , but VERY VERY rarely do they have it. .

Eric

[ericb]

Originally Posted by Austinrocks

personally use a volume pedal in the loop, easier to adjust, just another pedal, trying to adjust a knob not easy, stage is dark, amp is over there, and volume pedals can be set for min to max range, so I don't turn off the amp, and i can hear where I am on the pedal, knob has to be adjusted by hand those are busy.

lots of these around, suck knob is one, check ebay and you will see tons for $15

Hi, the suck knobs I see on ebay appear useless, unless I'm missing a vital point!! Are they footswitch controllable? i.e. . run 1 stereo cable or 2 cables to your pedalboard? If so , yep that's great .. If not, they're useless!

Eric

[rockon1]

Originally Posted by zombiwoof

Why not just use a 6 band EQ like an MXR or similar that has a bypass switch? You wouldn't have to build anything, and you could leave the sliders flat or adjust them for the rhythm sound, turn it off to get full-bore lead sound? I've heard of guys doing that, not necessarily in the loop but it should work there as well as in front of the input.

Al

+1 Nothing better than an EQ pedal in the loop. Its like adding a vitual extra channel. Bob

[ericb]

Originally Posted by rockon1

+1 Nothing better than an EQ pedal in the loop. Its like adding a vitual extra channel. Bob

The eq in the loop is fine too , but not necessary in most of my scenarios. I have 1 of the Boss Ge7's from when they were almost new on the market and have used it many times. In 1 of my rack setups I've used the Boss/Roland PQ50 for solo boosts and eq if I want it.

BUT in most circumstances both of them change your tone even with everything flat and on 0 , so many times all I want is a volume boost. .I do that using my Tremoverbs switchable loop feature, or Engl makes a feature like that, but most amps are just plain missing it unfortunatly . . The switchable volume knob should screw your tone up less than the Boss Eq's.. It's cutting hairs pretty much but using the eq in the loop there's another pedal to be powered also , and with a passive footswitchable variable volume boost you don't need to waste another pedal power outlet or power,etc..

Eric

[rockon1]

Originally Posted by ericb

The eq in the loop is fine too , but not necessary in most of my scenarios. I have 1 of the Boss Ge7's from when they were almost new on the market and have used it many times. In 1 of my rack setups I've used the Boss/Roland PQ50 for solo boosts and eq if I want it.

BUT in most circumstances both of them change your tone even with everything flat and on 0 , so many times all I want is a volume boost. .I do that using my Tremoverbs switchable loop feature, or Engl makes a feature like that, but most amps are just plain missing it unfortunatly . . The switchable volume knob should screw your tone up less than the Boss Eq's.. It's cutting hairs pretty much but using the eq in the loop there's another pedal to be powered also , and with a passive footswitchable variable volume boost you don't need to waste another pedal power outlet or power,etc..

Eric

Yes they change tone but so does a loop and the cables in it etc. I never worry aboiut it. My board is fairly simple too though so Im not worried about using power. Delay and EQ pedal in the loop and a clean boost and wah in front.