Shawn Lane tone in a pedal???

[countandduke]

Yes yes I know, it's all in the hands and he could play pretty much anything and it would sound like him. THAT aside......

What pedal would you all recommend for a Shawn type of overdrive. I have one of the Nady pedals that is pretty much identical to the Westbury overdrive he used but for some reason it's really noisy. Might be a circuitry issue, almost sounds like it needs a ground lift. There's no third prong on the plug and there's no option for using a battery.

To my ears, Shawn's tone has a healthy amount of overdrive to allow for the liquid lead playing he was famous for but also the ability to play those super fast lines without the overdrive smearing the notes. I had a Zendrive and that was VERY close to the tone but at faster note speed the pedal wasn't able to keep the notes clear and articulate, it was GREAT sounding at low speeds though. Maybe the Mosferatu? BB Preamp? M Audio?

Interested to hear your idears...

Doesn't have to be a tube pedal but I DO have some cool tubes I could use if necessary. I thought about the tonebone classic and changing out the tube?

Thanks,

Chris

[Eagle1]

What amp and what guitar first?

[countandduke]

Various amps and various guitar. I have a Les Paul, a strat and a Petrucci guitar. Amps are OD100SH/SE but I would probably use this into a rocktron velocity power amp or into a Fender combo on a clean channel. Hope that helps... but it might not. The OD100 just KILLS but I'm looking for a more portable rig or the ability to take my guitar and pedal to an open mic night...

Chris

[gpro34]

I own a Mosferatu. It is a nice pedal, but I don't think it does the Shawn Lane thing. I owned the BB also. I don't think you're going to get that tone from one particular pedal. I would try an overdrive with a fuzz or boost in front to push it. With the fuzz I would dial in at a medium setting and your overdrive to taste. If you lower the volume knob on the guitar very slightly you should be able to get this clean liquid sound which would be in the vein of the great Shawn Lane. I am able to do this with a number of overdrives and get some nice fluid legato and articulate staccato runs, give it a try.

[countandduke]

Yeah, I thought about using an RC Booster into an SD9 maybe? Ala Scott Henderson...

Chris

[Eagle1]

If you want a pedal that will get that type of tone in to a clean tube amp I would try a Sans Amp GT2 it can get you straight there. Another one in to a clean amp would be the old Ibanez Super Metal (tube screamer with more gain and extra EQ.) at a push the Boss Metal Zone with some careful EQing.

[Eagle1]

Originally Posted by countandduke

Yeah, I thought about using an RC Booster into an SD9 maybe? Ala Scott Henderson...

Chris

This approach is heavily dependent on the amp, as you are starting with a crunch channel and boosting it,not the same and harder to replicate through other peoples rigs.
But a SD9 or BB or even a Bose SD2 will work in to an OD100, but not someone else's twin.

[Melodic Dreamer]

It's all according of the rig, but I new a Guy who played the Tonebone Classic through a total Clean Fender amp and really got close to that sound.

I played a Hermida Zendrive 2 at a shop once and nailed his tone through a Maz.Jr.

[countandduke]

Thanks to all who responded...keep those idears coming.

Thanks again...

Chris

[Joe Kerr]

Shawn used a westbury tube overdrive pedal
I have one listed in pedals and efx here at tgp.

He ran that into a custom modified peavey profex 2
which in fact did have his holmes settings.

That is why you see him using that combination
throughout his life.

I happen to play the same setup and I quit buying into
all the amp hype the second I heard them
without the preamp and the settings though
no amp is going to sound like that.

I know Ive been chasing this sound for 10 years plus.
I have most of the vintage gear and pedals too
and none of them touched shawns tones like
the combination I play now does.

who ever said solid state amps do not have the sound
as a tube amp does just has not played through this.

The boost pedal has the only tube !
go figure.....

Diane in fact did get the settings because I sent them to her
and I also sent them a preamp loaded with them for shawns niece.

Diane had the records sealed and I was allowed to
program the profex for her grandchild.

I did just that and in return thats what I am playing through now.

I can tell you no amp sounds like that
the only tube boost pedal that nails that sound
is in combination with that preamp.

Its a westbury w20 or a nady td1
But alone by themselves without the preamp
they are not quite the same.

I will say the westbury beats my original tube driver hands down
and I got mine from danny thorpe RIP who was the one
getting them for Ej back in the day.

Matter of fact ej told me to never sell mine.
Now it sits collecting dust as the westbury
pedal eats its lunch.

I play the westbury or the nady td1
without the preamp its not the same
but with it nothing else sounds like that.

In my opinion and I think I can say I know a bit about this subject.
Since ive been researching it for over 10 years.

I ab'd that setup vs my bogner 100b and sold it right away
then same thing with the two rock custom reverb.

sold them both because the profex 2 with those settings and
the boost pedal wiped their slate.

solid state at that folks !
color me crazy though.

[Clifford-D]

You need some violin sounding od

You can get close to SL tone in a multitude of ways, no problem
That's not the big problem

The thing is,,, it was in his fingers, you can't get around that fact.
Shawn Lanes tone comes from his contact with the strings. Period.
I doubt anyone posting here (including myself) has that aspect of SL tone down. ykwim?

Get Sheets of Sound by Jack Zucker, spend a good long while copping some of that shit,,
get your technique up to SL level (lol) but this is arguably the BEST book for that SL thing.
Then you can really start working on the "tone",
or die trying.




better yet, just be yourself.

[imaguy2]

Originally Posted by Clifford-D

get your technique up to SL level (lol)

LOL

[Joe Kerr]

Originally Posted by Clifford-D

You need some violin sounding od

You can get close to SL tone in a multitude of ways, no problem
That's not the big problem

The thing is,,, it was in his fingers, you can't get around that fact.
Shawn Lanes tone comes from his contact with the strings. Period.
I doubt anyone posting here (including myself) has that aspect of SL tone down. ykwim?

Get Sheets of Sound by Jack Zucker, spend a good long while copping some of that shit,,
get your technique up to SL level (lol) but this is arguably the BEST book for that SL thing.
Then you can really start working on the "tone",
or die trying.




better yet, just be yourself.

Hey can you post which pages in the book have the studies ?
I have it and would like to know what pages those are on.

No doubt It was in fact Shawn no one plays like he did.

But did you ever wonder at all why he used the profex 2
with the westbury for the rest of his life ?

You never questioned his reasoning for that ?
TONE consistent TONE was the answer.

Btw the profex is solid state people.
So is the transfex pro solid state.

I dont use the tube feature at all in those.
No need.

Those amps stomp every amp I have ever played
right smooth into being sold.
I keep only my collection for investments.

Plus I like staring at plexis and stacks.
Makes for nice wall paper.

I play what the master played till he left us.

I am forever in debt to Diane and his family for that
and would do anything they asked of me.

Including keeping my word the settings wont see the light of day.
I think the man that helped me do this feels the same way.
They sealed the records from public.

To those who wish to support Shawn
Please deal directly with Diane and dont buy boots
from other forums it detracts from what Shawns wishes were.

He supported his family till he could no longer go on.
I do the same till I can no longer go on.

It makes me feel good about myself to do that

Because I know Shawn lane was a true man and he took
care of his family He had a huge heart and soul
and he is deeply missed by many many fans.

So please if you wish to get his music
Do so by contacting Diane and the family...
It Helps his Family out.

[countandduke]

Originally Posted by Joe Kerr

But did you ever wonder at all why he used the profex 2
with the westbury for the rest of his life ?

You never questioned his reasoning for that ?

I think it's fairly common knowledge that Shawn used TONS of different gear over the years and not just the Westbury and Profex II. From what I hear, he pawned a lot of his gear and then had to borrow equipment when he had gigs. He also used line 6 amps, THD amps and line 6 pedals...

Thanks...

Chris

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