Ear training in the car?

Can anyone recommend an ear training program on CD that you DON'T need a book for? I'm looking for something I can do while driving.

Thanks.

[lhallam]

Up there in Silver Spring and got a long commute on the Beltway?

David L Burge Relative Pitch Ear Training course. There is some stuff you are going to have to do while not driving, but as far as the drilling goes which is ca 95% of the course, you can do that in the car. 45 minute a day.

Got any questions, feel free to e-mail me.

[Pete2]

Originally posted by lhallam
Up there in Silver Spring and got a long commute on the Beltway?

David L Burge Relative Pitch Ear Training course. There is some stuff you are going to have to do while not driving, but as far as the drilling goes which is ca 95% of the course, you can do that in the car. 45 minute a day.

Got any questions, feel free to e-mail me.

I saw your review on this a couple months ago. Would you say that the work you've done has stuck with you, or do you need to keep drilling to stay fresh? Are you still as enthusiastic about the course as you were when you were in the middle of it?

Pete

[lhallam]

Originally posted by Pete2
I saw your review on this a couple months ago. Would you say that the work you've done has stuck with you, or do you need to keep drilling to stay fresh? Are you still as enthusiastic about the course as you were when you were in the middle of it?

Pete

Still doing it. I hate to say, that I've been stuck on one drill for quite some time. I refuse to cheat and continue on without really passing it.

Yes, it sticks with you pretty much. The ability to sing intervals at moments notice hasn't stuck as much, but hearing them has. For example, I can hear all the intervals until I'm bored on that on-line interval website that Joe posted . No problem. When I got out of college I certainly couldn't.

Yes, I'm still enthusiastic. It's friggin tough, no mistake and you've got to stick it out and you've got to do what he says.

I hope that some other folks who have since purchased the course would chime in here. I'm very interested in others opinions.

[Pete2]

Originally posted by lhallam
Still doing it. I hate to say, that I've been stuck on one drill for quite some time. I refuse to cheat and continue on without really passing it.

Yes, it sticks with you pretty much. The ability to sing intervals at moments notice hasn't stuck as much, but hearing them has. For example, I can hear all the intervals until I'm bored on that on-line interval website that Joe posted . No problem. When I got out of college I certainly couldn't.

Yes, I'm still enthusiastic. It's friggin tough, no mistake and you've got to stick it out and you've got to do what he says.

I hope that some other folks who have since purchased the course would chime in here. I'm very interested in others opinions.

Can you listen to regular music and hear the intervals pop out? I read a review someplace that said outside of the environment of the drills, they were having trouble applying it.

Pete

[Pedro58]

It's like anything else taught in isolation. It requires repeated practice and failure. I can teach my students certain grammar concepts, but do they use them? Do they recognize them in other people's speaking and writing? Not right away, but eventually they do. Putting a drill into practice in the real world is ALWAYS going to involve time and intital frustration. Burge shows you a way, shows you the path, but you have to work for it.

[lhallam]

Originally posted by Pete2
Can you listen to regular music and hear the intervals pop out? I read a review someplace that said outside of the environment of the drills, they were having trouble applying it.

Pete

That's a little difficult to answer. Can I hear all the intervals as a melody goes whizzing by? No.

Do some intervals pop out? Yes.

Can I sing a melody and figure out the intervals and write them down? Yes, but not to 100% accuracy and it takes time. It also depends upon the melody.

Do I feel that I have a better ear as a result of the course?

Absolutely.

I was at a jam and the guitarist just hit a chord while I was setting up. Instantly I heard a G7 chord. So the keyboard player whipped out a chord and in a flash I heard Cmin6/9.

However, I can't listen to a song and immediately identify all the chords but I'm working on it.

I'm not sure how anyone could create a more comprehensive course but that doesn't mean there isn't one out there.

If there is, I'd purchase it in a flash over any amp or gtr.

[markp]

After Ihallam ear training thread I started doing The Berg in my work truck and shortly after that work got me a brand new truck that only has FM radio only and no CD and no cassett.
When I go down to the basement at home I forget the ear training and just pick up the guitar.

[jzucker]

Try singing the intervals you see on license plates.

[EricT]

Originally posted by lhallam
Still doing it. I hate to say, that I've been stuck on one drill for quite some time. I refuse to cheat and continue on without really passing it.

Yes, it sticks with you pretty much. The ability to sing intervals at moments notice hasn't stuck as much, but hearing them has. For example, I can hear all the intervals until I'm bored on that on-line interval website that Joe posted . No problem. When I got out of college I certainly couldn't.

Yes, I'm still enthusiastic. It's friggin tough, no mistake and you've got to stick it out and you've got to do what he says.

I hope that some other folks who have since purchased the course would chime in here. I'm very interested in others opinions.

I'll try to do a review of my first couple of weeks with the course in another thread. I've only done up to level 5 on both courses, been way too busy to work on it more than just now and then...
I can tell you, though, that my ear has really improved just from those few lessons, I feel my ear is more open and I'm much more aware of the different intervals when listening to music(i.e. the harmonies between the different instruments).
I can't name them yet, but I'm much better at hearing them and singing them out correctly.
It's all hard work, though, you get nothing for free...

[lhallam]

Originally posted by Pedro58
It's like anything else taught in isolation. It requires repeated practice and failure. I can teach my students certain grammar concepts, but do they use them? Do they recognize them in other people's speaking and writing? Not right away, but eventually they do. Putting a drill into practice in the real world is ALWAYS going to involve time and intital frustration. Burge shows you a way, shows you the path, but you have to work for it.

Well said Pedro.

Thanks Eric and Mark.

Thanks, lhallam. I used to do singing exercises in the car and that was a great use of the time. Now that I'm not singing in a band, I'm looking for something different. I'll look into the Burge stuff.

Wow, it's expensive. $299. Maybe after Xmas...

[TonyV]

I recommend Bruce Arnold's Ear Training for Fananatics with his Ear Training Book 1.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...books&n=507846

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...books&n=507846

I don't think it is a good idea at all to do ear traing while driving, you should not be listening to something on which you are concentrating intently on.

[Pete2]

fyi - you can get the Burge course a bit cheaper on ebay-- either new for $239, or else slightly used (i.e., someone returned it with the money back guarantee) for less than that-- $180-200-ish.

Pete