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Old 07-07-2009, 10:51 AM
Ishmael8765678 Ishmael8765678 is offline
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What so big about fender reverb amps?

what I don't get is why the hell would someone spend around $1000+ on an amp that's just good for the clean channel? just get a standard tube amp that at least has a good overdrive too. I've heard that the distortion on the fender reverbs blows. i have played a fender '65 deluxe reverb and I don't see why so many people love them!? please explain
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Old 07-07-2009, 10:56 AM
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i think its pretty simple. alot of people like the sound that fender amps make.
price is indicative of what the market will bear.
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Old 07-07-2009, 10:57 AM
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I like the big, fat sound of a Twin. Simple enough.
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:02 AM
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Fender amps defined much of the sound and tone of country, blues and certainly early rock and roll until the Marshall / Les Paul combination was discovered in the late 60's.

As players were discovering the rich harmonics created by tube overdrive... Leo was working to reduce distortion in his amps (a little out of touch?). That's why there are many flavors of Fender through the years. They are the standard...

If you can not hear a difference between a Peavey Classic 30 and say a Tweed Deluxe, then buy the cheaper of the two. Also... no reason to pay collector prices if your a player and don't care what the amp looks like.



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Old 07-07-2009, 11:06 AM
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i mean in my opinion, buy a marshall tube amp. great cleans and bad ass distortion
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:09 AM
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Because there is nothing like the Fender Clean. That's all there is to it.

It's also a good amp for pedals so if you want a certain overdrive tone, just stick the appropriate pedal in front.
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:14 AM
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there are several distinct flavors of amp... fender(s), marshall, vox, mesa and dumble to name a few. None does everything... which is why lots of players have more than a few amps and of different sizes (to get the right distortion at the right volume). Marshall are killer amps... but they don't do everything.
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:18 AM
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i mean in my opinion, buy a marshall tube amp. great cleans and bad ass distortion
Everyone has their own personal taste. You seem to happen to be a Marshall guy. That's OK. Fenders have great clean and are a great platform for distortion pedals. And the overdrive in a BF Fender is good according to a lot of players. But if you want it to sound like a Marshall, it won't. You see a lot less people touting Marshall "cleans" versus Fender cleans.
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:20 AM
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When I was growing up, cranked Marshalls were all the rage. My first "real" amp was an all tube Marshall (after trading in my solid state Crate), and I loved it for years. Then, as I got older, I started using less and less gain, and desired a more "pristine" clean sound; while Marshalls can have great cleans, they are typically mid-heavy and sound best with a bit of breakup IMO. One day I plugged into a Deluxe Reverb with my Strat, launched into "Sultans of Swing," and knew then that I had to have a Fender amp.

Nothing beats the classic Fender clean sound IMO. Add that drippy wet reverb, and I am in clean tone heaven!
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:21 AM
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I think a clean sound is deceptive. You can have a crystal clear sound in your living room that sounds wonderful. As soon as you use it in a band situation, it sounds so thin and wimpy that it is unusable.

On the other hand, if you crank a clean sounding amp to where the power amp starts to break up, it might not sound the way you envision in your living room, but all of a sudden in a band situation, where some of the hair is cancelled out, it sounds like the big fat clean sound that you envisioned. To me, that's where Fender amps excel. A Deluxe Reverb does that at reasonable volumes too.
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:22 AM
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Fender amps defined much of the sound and tone of country, blues and certainly early rock and roll until the Marshall / Les Paul combination was discovered in the late 60's.

As players were discovering the rich harmonics created by tube overdrive... Leo was working to reduce distortion in his amps (a little out of touch?). That's why there are many flavors of Fender through the years. They are the standard...

If you can not hear a difference between a Peavey Classic 30 and say a Tweed Deluxe, then buy the cheaper of the two. Also... no reason to pay collector prices if your a player and don't care what the amp looks like.



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No, I don't think Leo was out of touch. Read your post, OD was growing in popularity in the late 60's. The favored Fender amps are models released prior to that.

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Because there is nothing like the Fender Clean. That's all there is to it.

It's also a good amp for pedals so if you want a certain overdrive tone, just stick the appropriate pedal in front.
I agree. We all like different things, that's why the "Which one is best" threads are so ridiculous.

I love Fender cleans and, to me, stepping on an OD pedal is no different than stepping on a channel switching footswitch. I know that's a bit over simplified but it works for me.

There are amps that would be a complete waste of money for me but others may find them very useful.

Some like Fender, some like Marshall, some like Vox...
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:33 AM
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What's so big about a b-52 lg-100a?
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:38 AM
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The classic Fender amps that everyone loves the Tweeds through the Blackface (1950's -1967) are amps without Master Volume. They have to be cranked up to get the tone we all know and love. Most guys who don't know these amps and are used to modern amps with master volumes will plug in and put the volume at 2 and expect great things. Well you don't get them until the amp is up past 5 with an old Fender. You need to learn how to operate the amp to get your tone. If you turn them around 8 you get a nice overdrive. You then turn your guitars volume knob to 5 or 6 to clean things up. The thing that is hard about this is that you have to have the right sized amp for the gig.
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:39 AM
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Right now I have 2 great amps... Neither of which can pull off the perfect blackface twin reverb clean tone. There are tons of pedals that claim to cop a decent od tone. Not many dare to say the same to cop a good clean. To me, that's all amp.
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:42 AM
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i mean in my opinion, buy a marshall tube amp. great cleans and bad ass distortion
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