Digitech GSP1101 help?

[brilliantmissta]

so i just started using the GSP 1101 in the 4CM into my bogner XTC 101b.

i'm mainly using the Bogner for most of the sounds, but i have a few patches where it switches to the GSP's preamps (AC30 patch and a few more).

my question is if i'm at a gig, should i just use the input knob on the front of the GSP to set the desired volume level for those patches for that show, then just use the amps masters to match that volume for when im using the regular Bogner sounds? i'm trying to find the easiest to make sure the patch volumes match with the amp volume. or is there a better way?

thanks!

[buddaman71]

I have been gigging with the 1101 for 2 years and love it. I recommend setting all patch master volumes (not the preamp master, but the individual PATCH masters) at around 50-60, so that you have headroom available to match levels between rhythm and lead patches.

It takes a bit of experimentation to find your happy medium, but once you do, it's amazing how you can instantly and seamlessly switch between amp and GSP models.

Compare the bypassed GSP tone with the active GSP tone and adjust the Master Output knob on the GSP until they are equal. Unity is usually between 11-1 o'clock on the Master output knob. Once you find the unity level, you should be able to leave it alone and use your amp's volume knobs to make all volume adjustments.

Good luck! It's a great piece of gear. Also, if you haven't updated to the latest software version on www.mustbebeta.com, do so immediately!! Tons of new features,stompbox and amp models.

Rock on!
Jason

[mtmartin71]

Originally Posted by buddaman71

I have been gigging with the 1101 for 2 years and love it. I recommend setting all patch master volumes (not the preamp master, but the individual PATCH masters) at around 50-60, so that you have headroom available to match levels between rhythm and lead patches.

It takes a bit of experimentation to find your happy medium, but once you do, it's amazing how you can instantly and seamlessly switch between amp and GSP models.

Compare the bypassed GSP tone with the active GSP tone and adjust the Master Output knob on the GSP until they are equal. Unity is usually between 11-1 o'clock on the Master output knob. Once you find the unity level, you should be able to leave it alone and use your amp's volume knobs to make all volume adjustments.

Good luck! It's a great piece of gear. Also, if you haven't updated to the latest software version on www.mustbebeta.com, do so immediately!! Tons of new features,stompbox and amp models.

Rock on!
Jason

I noticed RP1000 stuff on there too. Is this someone who's individually "hacking" and improving upon the official releases or is this an engineer doing beta stuff to the public without official release from Digitech/Harman?

[buddaman71]

It's run by Digi engineers. Unofficial, but every version I have used works perfectly.

[sanvandur]

Is the http://www.mustbebeta.com/ download PC/MAC, or just PC?
And, is there a way to revert to the factory firmware after having loaded the http://www.mustbebeta.com/ version?

[brilliantmissta]

Originally Posted by buddaman71

I have been gigging with the 1101 for 2 years and love it. I recommend setting all patch master volumes (not the preamp master, but the individual PATCH masters) at around 50-60, so that you have headroom available to match levels between rhythm and lead patches.

It takes a bit of experimentation to find your happy medium, but once you do, it's amazing how you can instantly and seamlessly switch between amp and GSP models.

Compare the bypassed GSP tone with the active GSP tone and adjust the Master Output knob on the GSP until they are equal. Unity is usually between 11-1 o'clock on the Master output knob. Once you find the unity level, you should be able to leave it alone and use your amp's volume knobs to make all volume adjustments.

Good luck! It's a great piece of gear. Also, if you haven't updated to the latest software version on www.mustbebeta.com, do so immediately!! Tons of new features,stompbox and amp models.

Rock on!
Jason

thanks for the reply! i'm a bit confused though...
if i set all patch volumes to about 50-60, what happens when i get to my gig and need more volume from the patches? i can't go through and bump all the volumes up, that would take forever! and sadly it'll change per show because some are mic'd and some aren't and we play different size venues every night.

and the other thing is.... the master output knob adjusts the volume even when its set on Bypass. is it not supposed to?

thanks!

[buddaman71]

I just recommend setting the patch levels mid way as a starting point so that you don't run out of headroom on your lead patches. I you have all your rhythm patches set too high, you won't have any room left to make the lead patches louder.

If you get all your values balanced between the amp and GSP, you should be able to set your master volume with the amp.

Master output knob does adjust the final output stage of the GSP either bypassed or not. It's been awhile since I used my GSP in 4cm. All I know is that once I got my patch levels balanced with the amp's preamp, switching was perfect and instant and seamless.

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[JeffMN]

I do the same thing - set my patches around 50-60, and find unity between the 1101 and amp preamp settings. Then, I just use my amp's master volume like I normally would when moving from room to room.

I've been using the 1101 with a Peavey Triumph PAG 60 (I know, Peavey... but it's a badass amp!) and I'm looking around for just a dedicated power amp now. The 1101 to my ear sounds so good and has so much flexibility for my current gig, I just don't know that needing a guitar amp is necessary. I'm running beta c32 or something like that... I need to get updated to the latest beta! With the Control 2, it's a cover band guitarist's dream, at least for the budget I have.

The 1101 is a wonderful piece of gear - I was very surprised at how good it sounds. Enjoy it!

[mtmartin71]

What do you guys think of SS vs. tube when it comes to running the GSP1101/RP1000? I bought a 4 space rack and haven't decided what I want to do with hit yet. I've got a few nice cabs (a 1x12 w/ Scumback H75 and a Marshall 2061cx) that I could use

[buddaman71]

I use mine sending the signal from the 1/4" outs (no sims) to my 50-50 tube power amp and then to my stereo 412 for my onstage tone.

Stereo XLR outs are DI to the PA mixer with speaker sims. Sounds fantastic on stage AND FOH that way.

PS: FYI here's a link to a recent live recording I just posted regarding the GSP http://www.thegearpage.net/board/sho...d.php?t=570175

I'm still trying to break up the live DVD info clips, but it's taking a bit, as I don't have any decent video editing software at the moment.

[mtmartin71]

Thanks for that info. Unfortunately, I think the RP1000 does not allow the split of cab sims. I'm going to try it full direct for some small stage stuff and see how it does that way first.

[brilliantmissta]

hmmm i guess that's where i'm confused. i don't think my amp has a master volume. it has masters for each of the 3 channels, but those don't control the GSP volume when i'm using the GSP preamps....

[johnrea_77]

I agree with the posts above that the preset levels are a very important part of the setup of the GSP1101. It is easy to confuse the amp sim volume which is a knob on the panel with the preset level which is a menu item in the editable parameters. It shows up easily in X-edit which is how I prefer to get my patches started. Then I usually only have to do minor tweaks on the stage.

The input from Jason on the non-solo patch level recommendation to be set to 50-60 is a very important part of the setup. I had them set too high originally and had the issue where I couldn't get enough boost on my solos. I have been though a lot of gear over the years but the GSP1101 with the C48 firmware has been one of the best investments I've made. The other plus is that the stage setup is very simple and keeps stage clutter to a minimum for me.