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Old 08-30-2009, 04:48 PM
Jura Jura is offline
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Fake Gibson Les Paul Supreme

photos of the fake:


photos of the real deal:


notable differences:
headstock "supreme" inlay without continents
"silver" wire
rosewood fingerboard (though it could be unstained ebony, but I doubt it)
wrong s/n font
wrong headstock shape
solid/very dark colour painted neck
cheap pickup switch
wrong tuning keys shape
wrong cutaway shape
looks like poly finish
...

your opinions please, I want to prove the seller that he is selling a fake, so if you find it to be fake, please say so..
thank you..
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Old 08-30-2009, 04:59 PM
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Here's a graphic from "http://Fibsons.com" that compares headstocks head-on:

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Old 08-30-2009, 05:03 PM
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the comparison angle is a bit sloppy, but it's quite possible to see the difference..
(also the same shoddy looking tuner buttons)
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Old 08-30-2009, 08:01 PM
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I knew that deal on the emporium was too good to be true...call Gibson with the serial # and you'll know for sure. Once you confirm it's fake, can you get your money back?
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Old 08-30-2009, 08:07 PM
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Useful post. As the better fakes get into the economy, it's worth learning how to tell the difference.

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Old 08-31-2009, 12:03 AM
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I knew that deal on the emporium was too good to be true...call Gibson with the serial # and you'll know for sure. Once you confirm it's fake, can you get your money back?
it's not from emporium..
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Old 08-31-2009, 07:14 AM
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The binding really sands out to me as the big difference.
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Old 08-31-2009, 07:21 AM
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I played one of these at Mandolin Brothers

Wasn't Gibson worst but came close
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Old 08-31-2009, 07:34 AM
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I played one of these at Mandolin Brothers

Wasn't Gibson worst but came close
Maybe it's just me and my language difficulties, but the second sentence doesn't make much sense to me..
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Old 08-31-2009, 07:42 AM
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Maybe it's just me and my language difficulties, but the second sentence doesn't make much sense to me..
THIS guitar was not the worst guitar gibson ever made


but it was pretty bad

Mandolin brothers had one one the wall and I got to play it.

It wasn't much more then an overdressed Epiphone

Poor Job
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Old 08-31-2009, 07:50 AM
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Gibson doesn't build guitars with frets over the binding. If people aren't smart enought to know that maybe they deserve to be ripped off. I mean jeez, these things have been out here for years. What part of " If it sounds too good to be true it probably is " are they not getting.
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Old 08-31-2009, 07:51 AM
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Groovey Records:
so you wanted to say (about the real Supreme):
"Wasn't GibsonS worst but came close"
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Old 08-31-2009, 07:52 AM
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Gibson doesn't build guitars with frets over the binding. If people aren't smart enought to know that they deserve to be ripped off. I mean jeez, these things have been out here for years.
most people don't spend whole days on guitar forums as we do..
most people never played a real Gibson..
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Old 08-31-2009, 08:32 AM
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The one things I notice from this thread (and I've seen dozens of these over the past few years) is that the fakes are getting better. It used to be that you could see from the across the room that the fretboard material wasn't right, the headstock shape was wrong, the trussrod cover had three screws instead of two, the 'Gibson' name on the headstock was wrong and the "font" of the serial number wasn't right. With this guitar, at least, I'm down to just a couple of telltale warning signs. I always tell friends that are looking that they need to be very familiar with Gibson's products and their characteristics before taking the plunge. All that being said, I have a young friend and his father who have recently been involved in not one, but three deals with fakes!
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Old 08-31-2009, 08:40 AM
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You would have a hard time replacing a volume pot. There is no control cavity.
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