VHT/FRYETTE Deliverance

[Lewkk]

Originally Posted by Bob Savage

Dang, that's a score (and a miss)!

I don't think the Pitbulls are for me and It would've been an expensive experiment to prove myself right + the shop had put them on ebay so, if I was bidding it would've doubtlessly gone up.

[Bob Savage]

Originally Posted by Lewkk

I don't think the Pitbulls are for me and It would've been an expensive experiment to prove myself right + the shop had put them on ebay so, if I was bidding it would've doubtlessly gone up.

I hear you. I had an UL and while I've heard others make them sound superb, it didn't work out for me (loved the lead tones though). The D60/D412 setup really hit the mark for what I wanted.

[splatt]

Originally Posted by Lewkk

I meant the Pitbull clean tones. I've not really played with the D120 cleans enough yet.
I've not heard a Pitbull where I really dig the clean tones, possibly because I've not heard one dialed in to my tastes + lack of experience or... I wonder how much of what I love about the 'vht voicing' for gain just doesn't relate to a good clean tone (for me).

ah, sorry!
i misunderstood.

anyways, i still love the PB45 cleans, myself..... in its final iteration.
most especially at volume, which is where that amp best gives up all of its goods.

Originally Posted by Lewkk

I'm interested in checking out the Sig + Memphis but as the UK distributor has stopped getting them in (because they think selling the FRYETTE name will be too hard, doh!), I'm not going to get the chance to try one anytime soon.

given that the fryette amps do, in fact, have a particular sort of character to them,
i feel that their voicings, from one amp to the next, are quite different..... as an ac15 is NOT an ac50, or a DR is NOT a SR, or a super-lead is not a jtm45,
or a shiva is not an ecstasy, or a given ODS is not a SSS,
as a tremoverb is not a markIV,
or as a concorde is not a constellation etc etc etc.

sometime, l think that these fryette amps, often perceived as most excellent at hi-gain w/feel & headroom, are somehow glossed-over
for their other excellent tones & feels..... which is clearly not my own approach,
as some crazy dude who needs equally satisfying varieties of sonic malleability.

in that, and though i am not a collector,
i keep all of my fryette (and old VHT) amps handy:
pb45, d120, sig-x (and, soon, memphis),
as they do indeed each fulfill (sometimes very) different sonic/feel needs for me, effectively.

just saying'
everyone's mileages may certainly vary, i know!

dt / spltrcl

[Lewkk]

Originally Posted by splatt

ah, sorry!
i misunderstood.

anyways, i still love the PB45 cleans, myself..... in its final iteration.
most especially at volume, which is where that amp best gives up all of its goods.



given that the fryette amps do, in fact, have a particular sort of character to them,
i feel that their voicings, from one amp to the next, are quite different..... as an ac15 is NOT an ac50, or a DR is NOT a SR, or a super-lead is not a jtm45,
or a shiva is not an ecstasy, or a given ODS is not a SSS,
as a tremoverb is not a markIV,
or as a concorde is not a constellation etc etc etc.

sometime, l think that these fryette amps, often perceived as most excellent at hi-gain w/feel & headroom, are somehow glossed-over
for their other excellent tones & feels..... which is clearly not my own approach,
as some crazy dude who needs equally satisfying varieties of sonic malleability.

in that, and though i am not a collector,
i keep all of my fryette (and old VHT) amps handy:
pb45, d120, sig-x (and, soon, memphis),
as they do indeed each fulfill (sometimes very) different sonic/feel needs for me, effectively.

just saying'
everyone's mileages may certainly vary, i know!

dt / spltrcl

Ah, there were 'revisions' of the PB45 then? I'm told I've got the latest revision of the D (whatever that means).

Yep, right or wrong when I think of VHT/FRYETTE the first thing I think is the high-gain. Clearly, they do alot more than that but the VHT 'rep' as you say is all about the hi gain. As reference - the best pristine clean tones I've gotten have been from my now gone transition Vibrolux Reverb (with BF guts). It's interesting you've kept both the D and the Sig, I've read several conflicting posts that the D is inside the Sig chan 2.
So... how about these clips?

[stephen sawall]

Big fan of Fryette's work ... I like all the amps myself.
I spent a few days with a D-120 and 60, UL, CLX and a Sig X. I now sit three feet from my Sig X. I liked all the voice options and voice's. I play a pretty wide pallet of tones.

I would not mind having one of each of the models.

[anoobis]

Originally Posted by Senor Forum

Who put it in for you?

A guy here in Santa Cruz at his store called The West Coast Tubeworks. His partner, who passed away last year, worked at Fender in the '60s and was a buddy of Alexander Dumble up until a few years ago, until they had a falling out. He said that Dumble is a weird dude. Imagine that.

Anyone should be able to put in a simple serial loop in your area, I would think.

I'll keep you guys posted on what I think of the Sig X compared to the D-120 but I already think from the clips I have heard that I will like the cleans and mid gain tones more on the Sig and the high gain more on the D. I don't hear any of that thick girth that the D-120 has on any of the Sig X clips I have heard.

[splatt]

ah.
so.....
for anyone interested,
here's my original "less mode" clip.
koll tornado>volume pedal>D120>hotplate>open-backed bob burt cab w/2 old celestion blues.
reverb in the "mix".

i wasn't, at that time, interested in showing the amp's cleans, too much:
just a little improv from my first day with the amp, was all.

dt / spltrcl

[anoobis]

Originally Posted by Lewkk

I know, it's really daft. otoh it means I got my D120H for 850 brand new as they were 'getting rid' of VHT stock.

I got my D-120 for 999 new at GC. I returned an Egnater Tournmaster I had bought and wanted to get the D-120 that I saw the week before for $999. In the meantime they had jacked the price back up to 1800 so I said WTF??? They said it had something to do with the name change. They didn't really know wtf they were doing so I got aggressive insisting I wanted the $999 price.
Then they tried to sell it to me for 1350 and I said give me the price it was last week or I'm out and they finally agreed. Score.

Cool clip up above this post. VHTs kick so much ass^^^

[splatt]

here's the "more mode" clip, from the same day.
a little echoplex looping, at the end.
same rig.

again, these are from before i really learned the amp,
before i figured out what i wanted from recording it,
before i really "dialed" it in, in live performance.

on my last recording,
"prezens" (on ecm),
all the amps used were pb45 & d120, fwiw.



dt / spltrcl

[michael.e]

AH DT! These series of Deliverance clips are my absolute favorite clips that anybody has laid to tape/processor via an electric guitar, ever.

Thanks!

Thanks!!

THANKS!!!!

[michael.e]

Originally Posted by anoobis

I got my D-120 for 999 new at GC. I returned an Egnater Tournmaster I had bought and wanted to get the D-120 that I saw the week before for $999. In the meantime they had jacked the price back up to 1800 so I said WTF??? They said it had something to do with the name change. They didn't really know wtf they were doing so I got aggressive insisting I wanted the $999 price.
Then they tried to sell it to me for 1350 and I said give me the price it was last week or I'm out and they finally agreed. Score.

Cool clip up above this post. VHTs kick so much ass^^^

Any chance I can take a listen to the D120?

[Bob Savage]

Crazy tones and playing in there, David.

[splatt]

Originally Posted by michael.e

AH DT! These series of Deliverance clips are my absolute favorite clips that anybody has laid to tape/processor via an electric guitar, ever.
THANKS!!!!

Originally Posted by Bob Savage

Crazy tones and playing in there, David.

ah, no problem, you guys.....
lucky, i guess, that steve still had those clips.

as i said, i was just finding my feet w/the d120, then,
but certainly enjoyed myself in the doing.

fwiw:
i finally (generally) settled into a fatter low-mids thing w/the amp,
a bit less 2k-"bite" and slightly less "ping-iness" in the high end.
to whit:
i don't usually use a large-diaphragm condenser, anymore,
when recording the d120.....
which i did use, on those first 2 clips.

dt / spltrcl

[Lewkk]

Splatt - that's some of the most inspired playing I've heard, the last time I was moved like that by a piece of solo guitar music was the Dead Man Walking soundtrack. Great tone, especially in less mode.

[gsf]

Love those clips, DT.