Boxing MMA question......

silencer eleven · #1 11-23-2009, 01:32 PM

There weights aren't even close. It would make more sense to say PacMan vs. Faber or PacMan vs. Mike Brown. And like everyone has said, it depends on the rules. Boxing PacMan, anything else MMA Fighter.

Wagster · #2 11-23-2009, 01:36 PM

In a boxing match GSP gets detroyed. In a MMA match Manny gets destroyed by leg kicks and then taken to the ground. MMA guys can't stand toe to toe and exchange punches with a world class boxer. Same goes for boxers defending the take down. GSP has the best take down in MMA. Plus GSP is a bigger guy so it's unfair from the start.

suckamc · #3 11-23-2009, 01:42 PM

The NUMBER of things which are allowed is barely relevant. MMA guy will get in the act of doing any one of those things.

furry · #4 11-23-2009, 02:01 PM

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GSP would be asleep within 45 seconds.

incorrect. do you really think GSP would be stupid enough to think he could stand and box with a world-class boxer? that's the whole point. it's like bringing a knife to a gunfight.

Manny would never get close enough to hit GSP, much less knock him out. It would be inside leg kick, body kick, head kick, take down, ground and pound, etc.

It would be over so fast, Manny wouldn't even know what happened.

Bo Faulkner · #5 11-23-2009, 02:09 PM

Watched that sport science show one episode where they compared MMA guys to karate and boxers and kick boxers. Conclusion was that the MMA guys punch harder, kick harder , and can take WAAY more punishment than any of the others

suckamc · #6 11-23-2009, 02:11 PM

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incorrect. do you really think GSP would be stupid enough to think he could stand and box with a world-class boxer? that's the whole point. it's like bringing a knife to a gunfight.

Manny would never get close enough to hit GSP, much less knock him out. It would be inside leg kick, body kick, head kick, take down, ground and pound, etc.

It would be over so fast, Manny wouldn't even know what happened.

Hahaha. Man, you've never done either.

"Well, GSP would just kick him!" Or "GSP would just take him to the ground." Kicks... lol. He'd get hit doing any of that. You've never boxed, so you don't know how quickly a boxer closes distance, but that whole "he'd keep far enough away from him" is couch jockey talk. But that's cool. This debate always goes the same, so I'll check out now.

fetishfrog · #7 11-23-2009, 02:36 PM

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Hahaha. Man, you've never done either.

"Well, GSP would just kick him!" Or "GSP would just take him to the ground." Kicks... lol. He'd get hit doing any of that. You've never boxed, so you don't know how quickly a boxer closes distance, but that whole "he'd keep far enough away from him" is couch jockey talk. But that's cool. This debate always goes the same, so I'll check out now.

It's all academic until a world class boxer gets in the MMA cage. Dana White has a standing offer to Floyd Mayweather for a large cash payout to fight any mid level fighter in his weight class. As expected, the offer goes unclaimed.

furry · #8 11-23-2009, 02:58 PM

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Hahaha. Man, you've never done either.

"Well, GSP would just kick him!" Or "GSP would just take him to the ground." Kicks... lol. He'd get hit doing any of that. You've never boxed, so you don't know how quickly a boxer closes distance, but that whole "he'd keep far enough away from him" is couch jockey talk. But that's cool. This debate always goes the same, so I'll check out now.

uh, oh...sound like a challenge. guess we're going to have to settle this...

INSIDE THE OCTOGON!

lol

paris is burnin · #9 11-23-2009, 03:02 PM

Damm when I started I didn't think about the size difference between them (GSPvsPAC).Maybe a better example would have been Mayweather against GSP.I luv most of your opinons,but I just dont think you guys are giving boxers(big time punchers) enough credit for there punching power.But on the same thought how many boxers could take a good and I mean good leg kick.Think about the match between Griffin and Rampage...Griffin kicked him so hard in the leg,Rampage could hardly walk after the fight,and these guys train for leg kicks

macheesmo3 · #10 11-23-2009, 03:41 PM

It's just two different sports.... The act of defense is so different between the two that it really wouldn't be a fair fight if one had to change disciplines in a hurry to fight the other...

suckamc · #11 11-23-2009, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by furry

uh, oh...sound like a challenge. guess we're going to have to settle this...

INSIDE THE OCTOGON!

lol

http://www.homestarrunner.com/20x6vs1936.html

bkd_guitarist · #12 11-23-2009, 04:40 PM

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Hahaha. Man, you've never done either.

"Well, GSP would just kick him!" Or "GSP would just take him to the ground." Kicks... lol. He'd get hit doing any of that. You've never boxed, so you don't know how quickly a boxer closes distance, but that whole "he'd keep far enough away from him" is couch jockey talk. But that's cool. This debate always goes the same, so I'll check out now.

This.

Evidently very few people on this thread have actually watched any boxing. The hand and foot speed of a Manny Pacquiao or a Floyd Mayweather is absolutely blinding, far beyond the quickest MMA guy that I've seen. Ever done any actual boxing? I have, with a former professional welterweight. Not a "name" fighter, certainly nowhere near the level of a Pacquiao, and still it was like being lowered into a cage with a tiger. You don't see the punches coming. It's like getting hit from behind, and suddenly you end up on your ass with no idea how you got there.

For those who think GSP would win in a quick, overwhelming rush, that technique would likely end with a very fast uppercut and GSP on his back. You do not come straight in at a pro boxer and remain vertical for very long.

Granted, GSP does have a much larger arsenal of techniques he can use. Unfortunately, none of that helps when the guy you're trying to hit/kick/grab/submit/clothesline is simply not there. The boxer is too quick. Pacquiao wins this one.