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Old 01-10-2010, 07:06 PM
09STREETGLIDE 09STREETGLIDE is offline
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Jj tubes or mesa tubes in a mesa.

What is your opinion on retubing a mesa f-50. Should i go with jj's or mesa tubes. ????
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Old 01-10-2010, 07:08 PM
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I had an F-30 that I put JJs in and it made a HUGE difference. Tighter bottom. Much better tone.

I had an F-50 that I put JJs in an I couldn't hear a difference at all. Sounded the same as the MESA tubes.
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Old 01-10-2010, 07:09 PM
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I use the Mesa tubes because of the convenience of the ratings. I guess if you can get JJ's that are spec'd for the Mesa they'd be OK.

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Old 01-10-2010, 07:12 PM
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"Jj tubes or mesa tubes in a mesa."

Yes.


I know it sounds silly, but it's true. Either one will sound about the same, IME. I have rolled tubes in several Mesas and found very little difference even when using RFTs, Mullards, Amperex, Sylvania and other tubes of the NOS "holy grail" camp. (YMMV of course. Void in Alaska, Hawaii and Puerto Rico.)

That being said, I have had good luck with JJs in other amps and they have been rock-solid reliable, not to mention the great service and prices offered by Bob at Eurotubes.

Might I ask what model of Mesa you are talking about?
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Old 01-10-2010, 07:17 PM
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F-50. As i said above.
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Old 01-10-2010, 07:20 PM
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Oopsie. I see I missed that in yer OP.
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Old 01-10-2010, 08:42 PM
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SED Winged C 6L6s or EL34s. Tell the shop you buy from that you're putting them in a Mesa F-50 so they give you the right spec.

Pop a JJ 12AX7 in the gain/distortion tube position(s).
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Old 01-10-2010, 11:54 PM
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As far as EL84's, I much prefer the JJ's in my LSS versus the Mesa EL84's.
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Old 01-12-2010, 06:20 PM
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Every Boogie Ive had has turned corners with JJ power tubes ... I like using the Sovtek 12ax7-LPS for the pre-amps, personally, because of the lower noise ratio when running higher gain.

But, every amp seems to have a mind of its own ... but, I think I read alot of love for the JJ tubes

best of luck ...

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Old 01-12-2010, 06:40 PM
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There are many more tubes available besides JJ's....
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Old 01-12-2010, 10:50 PM
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Mesa tubes are just ordinary Chinese one's - nothing special. And you can stick any tubes in Mesa amps.

JJ 's are probably better than the stock one's but you'll get the best result by asking an expert....so email doug at www.dougstubes.com and ask for his advice on tubes for your specific amp with a description of what tones you'd like to achieve. I've done this with 4 amps now. He's given great advice everytime and he's never recommended using just one tube maker, nor the most expensive one's. It's always been a combination of different brands
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Old 01-13-2010, 12:20 AM
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mark iv has mesa 6v6s, used the mesa 6L6s and E-34 power tubes as well, the preamp tubes are JJs, they have a nice set for the mark iv, really no complaints with the JJ set. Though look around the tubes do make a big difference.
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Old 01-13-2010, 12:40 AM
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back when i had an F30, i swapped out the stock mesa tubes for a full set of JJs. like hoboman said, tighter bottom. i also enjoyed more sparkle in the high end. that said, i only changed the stock tubes out because they were getting old. i was perfectly ok with the stock tubes.

also second the SED suggestion. managed to score a pair of NOS SED Winged C 6L6s at a local tube store, and they sounded great in my fender HR Deville. the amp seemed more responsive, sweeter high end and presence.
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Old 01-13-2010, 05:57 AM
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I liked the stock MB el84 tubes in my Lonestar Special more than JJ's. Sounded fuller to me
+1 for Doug's Tubes also good advice and service many times
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