What don't you like about the Axe-FX and its related threads?

[Jarrett]

Instead of mucking up Axe-FX threads that are trying to share positive information about the unit, how about we start a thread dedicated to what you don't like about the Axe-FX and more specifically, what you don't like about what others have to say about the unit in those Axe-FX threads.

Here's what I don't like about the unit:

Wish it had USB connectivity
Wish it had a dedicated foot controller similar to the Line6 FBV Shortboard MKII
Wish it had a dedicated FRFR monitor capable of handling guitar AND bass sounds at gig friendly volumes
Wish it had a Suhr PT-100 channel 2 model
Wish it had a Landry LS-100 OD channel model
Wish it had an Egnater EG5 module model
Wish it had a tuner that could handle 5-string bass

Here's what I don't like about the Axe-FX threads:
People coming in just to troll
People coming in to tell the "truth" about the unit when its really just to troll
People saying that because pros (who are endorsed by other companies/have their own amp models) don't the Axe-FX must mean that its not good enough
People saying that because pros/legends don't use it that somehow that means its not good enough for them (despite the fact they are not pros/legends themselves)
People implying the Axe-FX (being computer based) is less reliable than a tube amp
People not understanding that the Axe-FX is not just trying to model other amps, but rather it is capable of creating its own
People who have never seen or heard an Axe-FX in person attempting to tell others what it can and can't do.

There's a solid list off the top of my head. How about you? Maybe this thread can be used to keep the junk off the positive Axe-FX threads.

[screamtone]

Wish:
Wish it had a Fender Super Reverb model. I'm not sure why the Super Reverb has been ignored in almost every modeling product I've ever seen, but they're not really anything like a Twin or a Bassman (which all modelers seem to have).
Wish it had a Three-knob Fender Reverb unit model.
Wish it had a Dyno-My-Piano/Songbird Tri-Stereo Chorus model.

Don't Like:
People coming in just to troll.
People coming in to tell the "truth" about the unit when its really just to troll.
People who have never seen or heard an Axe-FX in person attempting to tell others what it can and can't do.

[Jarrett]

Originally Posted by screamtone

Wish:
Wish it had a Fender Super Reverb model. I'm not sure why the Super Reverb has been ignored in almost every modeling product I've ever seen, but they're not really anything like a Twin or a Bassman (which all modelers seem to have).

Adding this to my wish list too

[Shiny McShine]

I wish it could somehow be 4-500 bucks. Then I wouldn't have to hear any more Pod's ever again in churches.

USB is big to me also.
WiFi enabled so it could just talk directly to their website.
Switchable In/out for you own effects (fuzz, vibe, tape echo come to mind).

[aleclee]

Wish

• USB interface
• Headphone output
• 44K digital output in addition to 48K
• Move MIDI power input so right angle MIDI cables will fit

Thread dislikes

• Anti-digital trolls
• People who feed anti-digital trolls (guilty myself)
• More about how great they are than about how to get more out of them
• Would be nice if more how-to threads included clips and patch sysex

[aleclee]

Originally Posted by eBay

Switchable In/out for you own effects (fuzz, vibe, tape echo come to mind).

How's this different from the existing FX loop in the Axe?

[Ben R]

Here's what I don't like about the unit:

* I would also prefer USB over MIDI for connecting to my computer, but it's not that big of a deal.

* The fact that it's so incredible and each firmware update has significant improvements, I can't resist upgrading the firmware each time. This occasionally leads to a fair amount of time for me to re-tweak all of my patches. Having said that, I have CHOSEN to have lots and lots of patches for live use. So, mostly, this is my own doing and not really so much a problem with the unit. In fact, it's not even really a "problem" because I can choose to not update and it would still sound great. Plus, having to re-tweak my patches also leads to revelations and new ideas. So, it's all good. Nevermind.

* Waiting for what I know is going to be a cool MIDI controller. Less of a complaint, but more of a wish: I really hope that Fractal Audio releases their floor controller some time before I'm an old man.

Here's what I don't like about the Axe-FX threads:

* People coming in just to troll.

* People coming in to supposedly tell the "truth" about the unit when its really just to troll.

* People who are "insecure" about the AXE FX because they fear that it may somehow make their beloved Boutique Tube Amp(s) less relevant, admired, or valuable. These people will never admit that this is the real issue. And, they're actually misguided about that in the first place. Just because the AXE FX is great (and it IS), it doesn't take away from whatever gear that they use and works for them.

* People implying that the Axe-FX (being computer based) is less reliable than a tube amp. What's less reliable than a finicky piece of technology rooted in the 1960's (or earlier) that constantly has to be re-biased and have expensive and delicate vacuum tubes replaced?

* People who have never seen or heard an Axe-FX in person attempting to tell others what it can and can't do. These people judge the product without having ever played through it or even hearing it in person. You can't even really judge this thing based on internet audio clips. You don't know how competent the person posting the clip even is at getting the most out of the unit. Not to mention the fact that compressed mp3's or (worse!) Youtube or myspace audio is in no way, shape, or form, an accurate representation of what's heard in person or recorded in high quality formats.

[Stef_herbuel]

what i don't like :
- USB missing
- editor (BTW i did'nt try the new one)
- preamp and power amp that you can't use alone

what i don't like about axe-fx thread
- the self defensive user that believe that if you say something "bad" about the unit, you're a troll.looks like a religion sometimes.
- guys who come with agression when they don't agree with you.respect to scott to that, even if some don't agree with him, he always discuss with respect
- guys who believe that if it works for them, it must work for the rest of the world.
- guys who comes and saying bad things and have never tried one. (real trolls for me)
- people who think that "talk me about axe -fx " or "axe fx pro and con" is an automatic "postive axe fx post only" so if one guy post something about he does not like in certain situation (="con" ... for exemple : live) = troll , of course..he doesn't like it live : he's a troll. that's the worst thing i think.

that's all.;-)

[Jon C]

Originally Posted by Stef_herbuel

what i don't like about axe-fx thread
- the self defensive user that believe that if you say something "bad" about the unit, you're a troll.looks like a religion sometimes.
[...]
- guys who believe that if it works for them, it must work for the rest of the world.
[...]
- people who think that "talk me about axe -fx " or "axe fx pro and con" is an automatic "postive axe fx post only" so if one guy post something about he does not like in certain situation (="con" ... for exemple : live) = troll , of course..he doesn't like it live : he's a troll. that's the worst thing i think.

that's all.;-)

that's it in a nutshell for me ... skepticism or wanting to be informed or even offering legitimate electrical engineering/other perspective is often treated with great hostility (and has led to the loss of at least one incredibly valuable TGP member).

[mtlin]

What I don't like about the Axe-FX:

1. The models are skewed toward high gain modern tones. The AF does do vintage tones beautifully, but it just seems that the high gainers get more love, especially with new models introduced with new firmware updates. I agree with the Super Reverb comment. I'd also like to see some small tweeds, a Tweed Deluxe (the amp named Tweed is BF Deluxe Reverb --- go figure), a Champ and maybe an odd ball Supro or Gibson.

2. 48k only.

3. No USB

What I don't like about AF threads:

1. People with no first hand experience offering opinions.

[Jahn]

Headphone output, I like that idea. Man it would be cool just to have a monster processing box I can plug into my guitar late at night, and pop a can right into it and jam. Easy peasy.

[Gasp100]

Here's what I don't like about the unit:

The inability to "name" user IR's uploaded into the AxeFX

Here's what I don't like about the Axe-FX threads:

Nothing... I think the debates (which often times become heated or even go off topic) shed even more light on the product and offer great insight and opinions on the AxeFX (and the "modeling world" in general) from a lot of different people with varying degree's of experience, skill, knowledge, etc... The threads get a tad long sometimes though...

[powermatt99]

I can't stand how some of the leading Axe advocates pass their opinion off as fact. It would be okay for them to admit that the Axe has some weaknesses. Nobody would think less of their decision to use it. Cool-aid anyone?

I've been considering the Axe FX more and more. Finding factual information amongst the argument, conjecture, and downright trolling, however, is tedious.

[Bobby D]

wish it had KNOBS..........simply KNOBS......even 6-8 multifunction KNOBS....

[iaresee]

Originally Posted by Bobby D

wish it had KNOBS..........simply KNOBS......even 6-8 multifunction KNOBS....

I wish it was easier to hook up an array of knobs to it! Just a MIDI control surface. That'd be nice.

And USB for connectivity.

And a Fractal controller that had a built-in expression pedal.

And named user IR slots.

And the ability to compare the saved patch with the modified patch when making changes.

And a quick swap-two-patches feature.