Harmonizer Pedal Help

[airforce_brian]

Hello everyone!

I need some help making a bit of a bizarre setup. The band I'm currently playing in only has 1 guitar and a bass player, but we want to simulate rhythm guitar for some songs using harmonizer pedals with bass guitar. I'm the guitar player in the band, but it's kinda up to me to figure this out as our bass player isn't a huge gear guy.

We are looking to get an octave up of the root note on bass, and then a fifth up of that octave. So the harmony is essentially a power chord on guitar. Then the signal will be split with the bass going to his amp, and the harmonies going to either a guitar amp or through a pedal/preamp and direct in to the PA.

I made a setup that worked one day, but just isn't practical for gigs. It consisted of a EHX Micro Pog with the dry out going to his bass amp and the effect out (with only octave up on) going to a digitech whammy which added the fifth harmony, and then to a koch pedaltone and direct in to the PA. This setup sounded huge, but is just way to big and expensive to put on his pedalboard for gigging.

I'm hoping I can find one pedal that can do both harmonies at the same time or two small pedals that I can use together to achieve this effect without having to make a massive pedalboard or spend a lot of $$$.

Thanks in advance for any responses, hope you guys can steer me in the right direction!

[Moe45673]

Pretty complex requirements. You need a harmonizer that supports bass frequencies and puts out two wet pitches

What you've tried already is actually pretty clever. It sounds to me, though, like you may need to look at the Eventide Pitchfactor. I haven't researched this pedal but if any pedal can do what you want, this one can

[ShavenYak]

A Digitech Harmony Man or an EHX Hog would work. Both are on the expensive side, but at least they are single units. Boss makes a less expensive pitch shift pedal (and Behringer makes an even cheaper clone of it) that you could use to replace the Micro POG and/or the Whammy in your existing setup.

eta: PitchFactor would also work. It's also pretty expensive. The Harmony Man is probably the cheapest single-pedal solution.

[burningyen]

Keep an eye out for an Akai UB-1 UniBass.

[airforce_brian]

I've checked out the Harmony Man and The Hog, but neither actually do what I'm looking for. The Harmony Man comes close because it does two harmonies in one unit, but after one octave it jumps straight to a 2 octave harmony with nothing in between. I need 1 octave up, and then a fifth of that octave.

I'll have to research this Akai UB-1. I work at a Long and Mcquade, so I can search across all our stores for used stuff which is a plus.

[BadMelonFarmer]

A PitchFactor would work and do a whole lot more, I guess what you are doing might work really well for a couple of songs but wouldn't it be fairly restrictive for the bass player?

The pitchfactor would allow you to do things like crystals, pads, apegiators etc

to do the split thing you would need an ABY before the pitchfactor and keep the pitchfactor signal 100% wet.

Sounds really interesting though, what you are trying to do.

We use a guitar to trigger the crystals pads and pog2 attack mode to acheive a similar effect but bass would add a completely and unique twist. Like it.

Good luck

[airforce_brian]

Originally Posted by BadMelonFarmer

A PitchFactor would work and do a whole lot more, I guess what you are doing might work really well for a couple of songs but wouldn't it be fairly restrictive for the bass player?

The pitchfactor would allow you to do things like crystals, pads, apegiators etc

to do the split thing you would need an ABY before the pitchfactor and keep the pitchfactor signal 100% wet.

Sounds really interesting though, what you are trying to do.

We use a guitar to trigger the crystals pads and pog2 attack mode to acheive a similar effect but bass would add a completely and unique twist. Like it.

Good luck

I don't really need all the other effects, although they would be cool. I just want to simulate rhythm guitar for parts in songs that I want to play more lead oriented stuff, or over guitar solos. We previously had a singer that also played guitar, so that worked perfectly, but our new guy doesn't so we have to improvise.

The way I was running it before worked, but it seems impractical to buy a whammy just for the 5th harmony. Plus, I'd like to keep pedal board size to a minimum.

I might end up having to get the Pitch Factor anyway. I had a used one at my store a little while ago, I should have snatched it up!

[BadMelonFarmer]

not sure if you have seen this PitchFactor Bass Demo....

http://www.eventide.com/Home/Eventid...BassDemo1.aspx

thought it might interest you.

Cheers

BMF

[airforce_brian]

Originally Posted by BadMelonFarmer

not sure if you have seen this PitchFactor Bass Demo....

http://www.eventide.com/Home/Eventid...BassDemo1.aspx

thought it might interest you.

Cheers

BMF

Yeah thanks, I just actually checked that out. It does a ton of cool stuff but I feel like it's a bit overkill for what we actually want to do.

After reading about the Akai Unibass, I really want to pick one up. It is exactly what I'm looking for, but they are close to extinct! I can't find one anywhere.