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Old 03-22-2010, 03:35 PM
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What does a bad refret look like?

It looks (to my untrained eye) that someone gouged the fretboard taking old frets out?

http://i.ebayimg.com/09/!Bow732QBmk~...zN1,Bg~~_3.JPG

Anyone knowledgable on the subject?
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Old 03-22-2010, 03:43 PM
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Looks like they didn't try hard enough to avoid tear out. It's a common thing, but there are things you can do to minimize it and they should have at least glued dust back in to match. The thing that really sticks out is they didn't bring the fret over the binding. I mean is it that hard to nip the tangs?
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Old 03-22-2010, 03:45 PM
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Did they say there was a refret?
The reason I ask is that the "nibs" on the fretboard binding are still intact, and those typically don't survive a refret.

Or could that gouging happen while cleaning or dressing frets?
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Old 03-22-2010, 03:46 PM
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Hi Mike, thanks for the reply.

This is on a '60 Classic, all of them I've seen have the fret ends stop at the binding and the binding cut in the shape of the fret end.

Hope that makes sense, let me know if I misunderstood.
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Old 03-22-2010, 03:48 PM
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Did they say there was a refret?
The reason I ask is that the "nibs" on the fretboard binding are still intact, and those typically don't survive a refret.

Or could that gouging happen while cleaning or dressing frets?
I'm waiting to hear back.

It looked to me that whatever they used to pull the frets had gouged the fretboard.

The nibs don't survive a refret? I vaguely remember seeing a refret in the past that had them still but I'm not 100% on that.
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Old 03-22-2010, 03:50 PM
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The nibs don't survive a refret? I vaguely remember seeing a refret in the past that had them still but I'm not 100% on that.
Note that I say "typically."
Most people level it all down to the fretboard level, and then fret over the binding because it's cheaper/easier.
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Old 03-22-2010, 04:49 PM
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Looks to me like the frets have just been pulled out quickly without heating them up with a soldering iron. If you heat them with a soldering iron and pull them up carefully you can avoid this result. This is why I prefer to do my own guitar work.
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Old 03-22-2010, 09:52 PM
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sorry, that looks stock to me.

gibson presses the frets in, and for a while there in the '90s they were pressing them in pretty damn hard, to where you saw the wood actually crunched in a little along the fret.

anyone who could do that good a job of restoring binding nibs on a refret wouldn't allow that crunching to happen. that's straight from the factory.
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Old 03-23-2010, 10:27 AM
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Those look stock. Gibson does horrible looking fretwork anyway. Also if anyone is skilled enough to leave the nubs intact, they wouldn't be doing shotty fretwork.
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Old 03-23-2010, 08:31 PM
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I couldn't tell from the pic if the nibs were there, or not and I agree with Walter - shoddy work with the fret press.
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