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06-07-2010, 07:38 PM
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If a digital piano will never be like a real piano....
That means that modeling amps will never be like tube amps. Let's face it guys. Those who are saying that modeling is the future or that Axe-fx is getting close have no idea of what a good amp sounds like. Modeling is good for metal, but for the Hendrix tone of a cranked Marshall that's where it will be too difficult with modeling amps. Think about modeling a violin or a human voice, you can get close but it will never be the same. And the same thing is for tube amps.
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06-07-2010, 07:40 PM
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 (I've always wanted to be the first to get in a thread with one of those...)
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06-07-2010, 08:06 PM
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Now what? Many pages of back and forth drivel on a subject that's been done about a gazillion times? Try something original......like a thread on how terrible Dumble clones sound. 
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06-07-2010, 08:10 PM
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I basically agree with you at this point in time but few dispute modeling has many attributes and often can outperform a real amp in a given situation. The same as a digital piano, though a typical digital piano as great as they are(convenient-no miking), I find they lack the depth because of the lack of overtones of the real deal. But Yamaha has unleashed a 20K Baby Grand digital that has classical musicians saying it is 95% there and better than what they often use so amp modeling in time may get there after all.
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06-07-2010, 08:18 PM
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Lets face it, a tube amp will never be like a real modeler either.
To me like all musical gear, there are compromises. Its up to the user to decide which compromises make the most sense for them and how they will use the equipment. Making blanket statements one way or the other, makes it harder for us to find the gear we all want. I had a guitar player say that all modelers lack dynamics. Then I showed him that I could still play dynamically with my modeler straight to the PA. Not the same, but the benefits outweigh the slight difference TO ME. dk
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06-07-2010, 08:18 PM
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This.
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06-07-2010, 08:20 PM
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If you think the Axe-Fx isn't getting close then you have no idea of what a good TONE sounds like. The Axe-Fx isn't 100% there yet, but it's getting damm close. And what do you care about for anyway? Play what you play and stop worrying about what someone else plays.
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06-07-2010, 08:20 PM
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but if you are in and out of clubs/bars/performing spots/stages almost every night of the week and doing it out of your car then modelling gear starts to sound real good (size/weight/quick convenience)
i love my half stack to death and thinking of adding an AC30 to the rig but gigs are getting a lot more frequent,sometimes 2 in one day......40 yrs old.day job aswell,the Modeller is now sounding real good into a PA.
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06-07-2010, 08:21 PM
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And I swear this is not a troll.
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06-07-2010, 08:33 PM
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I dunno, about five years ago I heard a power pop guitar player using one of those vox modeling amps with the chrome grill. His phrasing was impeccable, the songs were good and he was beating the hell out of his strings. Modeling amp or not, however he had it set, it sounded really good. Definitely an ear opening moment.
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06-07-2010, 08:58 PM
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