Tyler guys whats the difference Classic vs SE

[lukeII]

I own a 2007 Landau Black Classic that I really love It is just one of the best Strat type guitar that I've tried. Its in a different vibe from two really good strats I have (a Mayer and a maple neck CS). So I've been thinking about picking up a Maple neck Studio Elite but do the Tyler crowd know if there are any differences in feel of the SE vs the Classic model (neck profile, frets)?

The body dimensions look a little different with easier access to the upper frets. Also all things being equal (wood type, pickups) do SEs sound different than Classics i.e. do they sound more modern or vintage or some other charactertic?

Thanks

[Flinto2002]

Body style and headstock style, that's it.

The Classic is the traditional strat shape with front mounted input jack and a smaller peghead.

The Studio Elite has sightly elongated horns that are cut deeper for better upper fret access, a side mounted input jack and a slightly larger peghead.

Typically, classics tend to come with 6 screw vintage style tremelo's and Klusson locking tuners, while SE's tend to come with 2 point trems and Sperzels. But I've seen them come every which way.

[lukeII]

Thanks for the info. I actually tried a studio elite burning water back in 2005 or 2006 but its hard to remember what that was like I do recall that I liked the guitar but found the frets too big I think they were 6100 or jumbo. My classic came with 6105 (tall vintage) which I like a lot more on a strat type guitar.

[eliot1025]

Aside from what's listed above -
The SE has tighter curves on the body edges making it less likely to slip on your lap.
The SE has a deeper belly cut.
A neck tint is standard on the Classic. The SE necks are un-tinted.
Klusons are standard on the Classic.

Both models have a set of normal options but you actually have your choice of frets, woods, electronics, finishes, hardware, radii, nut widths and headstocks on either model pending Jim's willingness to do the unusual. (I.e. I have an SE HD with a Classic headstock.) It will depend on his mood and other mysteries. What you can't change is the pickguard shape and body design, i.e. the SE can back-routed but I don't think that was an option on the Classic. I'm not sure if he'd make a Classic with no neck tint.

[lukeII]

Originally Posted by eliot1025

The SE has a deeper belly cut.

LOL Sounds like a guitar to grow old and out with.

Thanks for the info sounds like you can within reason of the respecting the model basic specs you can get it customised to your specs. Do you have the mid boost function and do you reckon it is a good feature to have or is it more of a gimmick

[LordRiffenstein]

I have a Classic and SE with the exact same specs (body wood, neck wood/shape, tuners, trem etc), the only exceptions are the bridge humbucker and the SE having the midboost with the bypass button. At one point, both guitars had the same humbucker although one with, the other without cover. Besides the visual differences, there's also a slight difference in weight but that's probably also caused by the wood, more than the different outlines.

When playing them side by side, the Classic is really that, a more classic sounding Tyler, it seems to have more chime and sound a bit sweeter overall. The SE sounds more modern. Both do have the typical Tyler growl and great feel. Both have Suhr V60LP single coils and I find that on the Classic i can raise them a bit more than the SE without them getting a harsh overtone. Comparing them acoustically, I would say the Classic has a bit more sustain but when plugged in it seems that the SE sings more.

[eliot1025]

Originally Posted by lukeII

LOL Sounds like a guitar to grow old and out with.

Thanks for the info sounds like you can within reason of the respecting the model basic specs you can get it customised to your specs. Do you have the mid boost function and do you reckon it is a good feature to have or is it more of a gimmick

The mid-boost is useful - not a gimmick at all. The midboost extends the frequency range of your pups (in both directions) even when the boost knob is all the way down. So, the bypass button is important if you want to have the option of the regular sound of your pickups.

[lifeson1]

Jim would shoot me for this, but I had both an SEHD and a Classic, and I always drifted back to my Classic, and I'm a hard rock guy. I loved the sustain, the frets, the shape. . . everything. That being said, I could see myself picking up another SE, but my Classic will always be with me.

[DWB1960]

Originally Posted by eliot1025

The mid-boost is useful - not a gimmick at all.

Agreed. It's almost like having an OD pedal built into the guitar.

I believe a lot of the SEs are also mildly chambered.

[Pabliani]

Originally Posted by eliot1025

Aside from what's listed above -
The SE has tighter curves on the body edges making it less likely to slip on your lap.
The SE has a deeper belly cut.
A neck tint is standard on the Classic. The SE necks are un-tinted.
Klusons are standard on the Classic.

Both models have a set of normal options but you actually have your choice of frets, woods, electronics, finishes, hardware, radii, nut widths and headstocks on either model pending Jim's willingness to do the unusual. (I.e. I have an SE HD with a Classic headstock.) It will depend on his mood and other mysteries. What you can't change is the pickguard shape and body design, i.e. the SE can back-routed but I don't think that was an option on the Classic. I'm not sure if he'd make a Classic with no neck tint.

Off Topic and for you Eliot:

Do you know when Jim started the Classic and S/N for the first ones?

Thanks so much.

[JDouglee]

Originally Posted by eliot1025

The mid-boost is useful - not a gimmick at all. The midboost extends the frequency range of your pups (in both directions) even when the boost knob is all the way down. So, the bypass button is important if you want to have the option of the regular sound of your pickups.

That's a great description there. Almost like a 'loudness' contour.

I like the strattiness of my Classic, but I have a 20 year old SE Jimburst I'll never part with, it's just sounds so good...midboost or straight.