Become a Supporting Member


Go Back   The Gear Page > The Gear > Effects, Pedals, Strings & Things

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-05-2010, 04:01 PM
Shiny_Beast Shiny_Beast is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Ottawa Canada
Posts: 3,259
Soldering Switchcraft #228 pancakes

I went to spin up a couple of these with some monorail and had the damndest time. It jept measureing a couple k between the live wire and ground, but only sometimes depending how I bent the wire, twisted the plug etc...I thought maybe I cooked the monorail, but I eventually tracked it down to the plug?!?

I think I put to much solder in the center hole where the live wire goes, so under the right kind oif stress the plug would stat to conduct?

Anybody know what mught be going on here, what I did wrong. I changed the plug and all seems good right now, but I'd like to know what I did wrong.

Thanks
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-05-2010, 04:12 PM
SteveO SteveO is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Here, there, and everywhere
Posts: 9,105
It's entirely possible that you left a solder blob big enough to short to the plug case and ground it out.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-05-2010, 04:20 PM
plan-x plan-x is offline
Supporting Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Ca Mojave Desert
Posts: 1,424
Sometimes one can overheat the ground braid in the cable near the end and that will melt a littlle hole into the inner wire insulation. When the cable is bent a certain way the exposed wires touch and short. Cut off an inch and start again.
__________________
Plan-x...... The band
http://www.myspace.com/wichmanbrewster

Good deals with: bsuite, zzzzzzz, clicktone, Monkey Boy, Festus, Rollin, motobum, partsocaster, daquistojazz, mrphotosales, jads57, sshan25, Biggelzworth, hector, Nighttrain, succor, MHermans, jnepo1, etc.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-05-2010, 04:29 PM
Shiny_Beast Shiny_Beast is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Ottawa Canada
Posts: 3,259
I Inspected the wire pretty close. the kick was measering the opposite plug showed the 3k when the other end was soldered. Once I unsoldered the other end the reading went back to overload.

the bad plug of course would only show the problem when the cable was soldered to it, a real head scratcher. I'm going with the blob of solder down the center hole theary I think.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-05-2010, 05:01 PM
KBN KBN is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 829
Did you strip the inner black layer back?


That is likely semi-conductive to increase the shielding. If you don't strip that back as well it can lead to the problem you are having. I don't have any experience with the Monorail cable, but that has proved true with other brands of cable.

Last edited by KBN; 09-05-2010 at 07:11 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-05-2010, 06:50 PM
Shiny_Beast Shiny_Beast is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Ottawa Canada
Posts: 3,259
No I didn't, interesting thought. Maybe that's the problem. I'm gonna peel that inner stuff back to the white on the next one. thanks
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-05-2010, 10:34 PM
plan-x plan-x is offline
Supporting Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Ca Mojave Desert
Posts: 1,424
Oh Yeah! This is true. That black sheath on the inner wire has to be stripped back so there's no contact with the "tip" solder point.
__________________
Plan-x...... The band
http://www.myspace.com/wichmanbrewster

Good deals with: bsuite, zzzzzzz, clicktone, Monkey Boy, Festus, Rollin, motobum, partsocaster, daquistojazz, mrphotosales, jads57, sshan25, Biggelzworth, hector, Nighttrain, succor, MHermans, jnepo1, etc.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-06-2010, 12:54 AM
pixelchemist pixelchemist is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 474
i generally slit, rather than completely remove the inner plastic (white) and pull the inner wire out of the slit to the center lug... this leaves the white plastic in place to act as a shield between the housing in the wire.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:16 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999-2013, The Gear Page, LLC, Brian Scherzer
All rights reserved.
Header Graphic by NetThink 21