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Old 11-20-2010, 09:08 AM
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Aracom + 100 watts = ???

I've got an Aracom PRX150-PRO. I love it. I use it with my Vox Cambridge Reverb to tame the beast late at night. (As we all know even 5 watts can be loud.)

Anyway... considering getting some big iron and wondering how well big iron will be tamed by the Aracom. I know it's hard to generalize from amp to amp, but am wondering, for example, if a 100 watter is set at 50% volume and the Aracom is set to max attenuation, what sort of noise are we talking about?

I'm thinking of getting an amp that is rumored to have an awesome master volume, so the Aracom may not even be required... but thought I'd throw the question out and see how some of y'all respond.

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Old 11-20-2010, 09:11 AM
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suggest you read carefully all the documentation available and linked to at the Aracom site ... 100 watts @ 50% attenuation is going to be pretty loud IMO.
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Old 11-20-2010, 10:02 AM
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suggest you read carefully all the documentation available and linked to at the Aracom site ... 100 watts @ 50% attenuation is going to be pretty loud IMO.
Thanks... but I was asking about amp on 50%, Aracom at max attenuation. Now, if max = 50% attenuation, then I apologize in advance.
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Old 11-20-2010, 10:27 AM
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Too loud for "late night" practice. I live in an apartment and the Aracom wasn't able to bring my Ampeg V4 down low enough for practice any time of the day.
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Old 11-20-2010, 10:47 AM
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Too loud for "late night" practice. I live in an apartment and the Aracom wasn't able to bring my Ampeg V4 down low enough for practice any time of the day.
Thanks for the feedback; much appreciated!
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Old 11-20-2010, 10:49 AM
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Thanks... but I was asking about amp on 50%, Aracom at max attenuation. Now, if max = 50% attenuation, then I apologize in advance.
Oops, my bad, I think I got that backwards ...

Hard to say, I have run that sort of setting with only a 12 watt (loud - 65 Lil Elvis) amp and it's been low enough for in house with me in basement and wife upstairs (2d floor), but I don't know if it would be soft enough for an apartment ...

as much as the wonders of high quality attenuators like Aracom, Faustine & Alex impress me, the main thing that I miss is just the same juicy dynamic response of the speaker moving air at the max attenuation levels ( perceived sound effect explained by the Fletcher-Munson curve, etc.). But the max attenuation does cut down the dB quite a bit. They still retain dynamics but it's not quite the same ...

Are you in an apartment, or a house? Right next to a bedroom, etc.?
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Old 11-20-2010, 10:56 AM
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I used an Aracom on a Komet 60, Wizard, Komet Concord and it could bring them way down, way lower than club volume and it still sounded good and keep it's dynamics. It's a great tool when needed. Work great with a Germino LV 55 as well.
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Old 11-20-2010, 11:23 AM
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Oops, my bad, I think I got that backwards ...

Hard to say, I have run that sort of setting with only a 12 watt (loud - 65 Lil Elvis) amp and it's been low enough for in house with me in basement and wife upstairs (2d floor), but I don't know if it would be soft enough for an apartment ...

as much as the wonders of high quality attenuators like Aracom, Faustine & Alex impress me, the main thing that I miss is just the dynamic response of the speaker moving air at the max attenuation levels ( perceived sound effect explained by the Fletcher-Munson curve, etc.). But the max attenuation does cut down the dB quite a bit.

Are you in an apartment, or a house? Right next to a bedroom, etc.?
Understand that pushed speakers "moving air" definitely contributes to overall tone. S'one of the reasons I'm interested in trying some big iron. I've read in other threads that guys with big iron and attenuators like the tone better than low watt amps pushed.

I'm in a house, but I don't really want my neighbors listening to me flail away. But, lol, when the neighbor's dog starts to barking, I'll love having some big iron to point out an open window and start bashing out "Louie, Louie" or "Wild Thing" on a dimed big iron amp.

And... my wife is fairly intolerant to having to listen to me play guitar at ANY volume. After she's gone toes up, I usually just plug into my Mac Book Pro and play through a GB sim amp. I do sometimes play through one of my amps at a really low volume but that's because they're set up in my loft area, and there's no wall or door between that area and our bedroom down the hall, except for the bedroom door itself.

Depending on how I end up managing the volume... MV and/or Aracom, I might be able to set up my big iron amp in the same place... or I may have to move it into another room that will throw up at least one more door between the amp and the sleeping giant down the hall.

And... right now? All depends on me getting a call from a guy interested in buying one of my amps. Fingers crossed... but regardless, I am still interested in whatever feedback I can get on the subject.

Thanks, man! Appreciate you coming back around to add more to this thread.
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Old 11-20-2010, 11:28 AM
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I used an Aracom on a Komet 60, Wizard, Komet Concord and it could bring them way down, way lower than club volume and it still sounded good and keep it's dynamics. It's a great tool when needed. Work great with a Germino LV 55 as well.
Yep, love my Aracom. I haven't tried every attenuator out there, but I've had five different types of attenuators, on-board and external, and the Aracom "wins" hands down. No comparison; none of the other ones even come close, imho.
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Old 11-20-2010, 11:42 AM
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That would be very quite, like a percentage of a watt.
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Old 11-20-2010, 12:16 PM
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I've got an Aracom PRX150-PRO. I love it. I use it with my Vox Cambridge Reverb to tame the beast late at night. (As we all know even 5 watts can be loud.)

Anyway... considering getting some big iron and wondering how well big iron will be tamed by the Aracom. I know it's hard to generalize from amp to amp, but am wondering, for example, if a 100 watter is set at 50% volume and the Aracom is set to max attenuation, what sort of noise are we talking about?

I'm thinking of getting an amp that is rumored to have an awesome master volume, so the Aracom may not even be required... but thought I'd throw the question out and see how some of y'all respond.

TIA!

Lang
If I were interested in getting a 100-watt amp to use with the Aracom, I'd get a NMV one. MV + Aracom seems redundant. Aracom + 100 watts shoud =
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Old 11-20-2010, 01:20 PM
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If I were interested in getting a 100-watt amp to use with the Aracom, I'd get a NMV one. MV + Aracom seems redundant. Aracom + 100 watts shoud =
Yep, roger that! Not sure what I'm going to end up with... do know what I want, just don't know if I can get there from here.
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