Clapton Gibson LP

[ericjohnschwab]

Originally Posted by bismark

The Les Paul Forum....where cork sniffery is strong. I like how one of the poster there recently described the forum....

"It's hard to ignore the class system here. The super elite have the vintage bursts, the mid-upper class have the Historics (but desperately want to believe what they have is close to what the elite have), and the working class own the standard USA models - and get upset when the Historic owners tell them they have junk...."

Much truth, me thinks.

Are the Studio's like folks in the welfare line and the Epiphone owners the untouchables like in India?

[Johnny Alien]

Originally Posted by Nuclearfishin

I like how over on the Les Paul forum a guy posts about one he bought and then basically says not to type anything other than compliments otherwise keep quiet. He bought the $30k one to collect and the $6k one to mod. WTF--if you're going to spend that on a signature model, why start modding it? I'm a fan of Gibson historics, but not these overpriced signature monstrosities. The only signature that counts is the original...Les Paul

I can understand why someone would say that....you buy a new guitar only to face 30 pages of people saying that the guitar, Gibson and you are all retarded. If you got nothing nice to say, right?

And he was planning on making small mods to make it more correct such as removing the pickup covers and getting cream bobbins.

[guitarfish]

I am a big EC fan, he's the reason I started playing. But the Beano LP sig leaves me scratching my head. I mean, what is it, really? Tuners aside, how is if different? People are paying for the EC signature and bragging rights, but I'm not exactly sure what they're bragging about.

And I ahree with what was said by someone else earlier, it's a shame EC didn't play a 335 for Crossroads on the Cream reunion, I'd have loved to hear that. (Although the Strat version was quite superb).

[MarkL8]

TGP'ers calling out others for corksniffery.......Beano Burst aside......this in and of itself is too funny ROFLMAOPizzin

[JB Eckl]

I can't believe I'm gonna say this...

WANT.

[bluesjuke]

Originally Posted by MarkL8

TGP'ers calling out others for corksniffery.......Beano Burst aside......this in and of itself is too funny ROFLMAOPizzin

Yep.

[gmann]

In the FWIW dept, a guy on the LPF bought one and posted a bunch of pics. The guitar looks fantastic with all the case candy that you would normally expect. After several pages of comments another guy posts the question, 'well, was it worth it? The OP posts back and says, 'no, not really, it just a glorified RO with a bunch of Clapton case candy'. This is what I was thinking lookin' at all his pics but I wouldn't post that, not my place to rain on someone else's parade. This is just marketing for Gibson, all in all probably a good business deal. They are in business to make money after all. Those that want it will buy it and those that can't afford it will make fun of it, it's this way with a lot of things. If you can afford it but think it's not worth it, don't buy it. Of all the signature models they've come out with I really did want a Duane back in the day. Stupid expensive then, much moreso now on EBAY. Most of the ones I saw looked nothing like Duane's, ie no reverse chevron/gull wing flame. I know guys that preordered these and waited forever and got one that looked nothing at all like a Duane, just an R9 with a really nice top. The best ones, IMO, have been the Bloomfields. The NOS ones look great and the aged ones look even better. However you could really do the same thing with an nicely topped R9 and some mismatched knobs. Same thing with the Peter Green ones. If I had a Bloomfield, 1st thing I would do is change the knobs, keeping the orig. mismatched ones for resale at some future date. As for the Beano Burst, it makes sense for Gibson to have one. For most people he's the reason they play a Les Paul. Also, it might serve to get EC playin' a Lester more often and to me that would be a good thing!

[Samba]

Originally Posted by Derek Q

Agreed that EC looks less-than-enthusiastic in that pic, but apparently he is actually using it:

Thanks - it's great seeing Clapton with a Gibson!

[bluesjuke]

Yes, it surely is- thanks!

[Nuclearfishin]

Originally Posted by Samba

Thanks - it's great seeing Clapton with a Gibson!

I just read an article where they talk about how ec got his tone from from a les Paul, specifically on sunshine of your love. Basically he puts the selector switch in the middle, rolls the tone knob off on both pickups, volume on bridge to 6, volume on neck to 10, and then plugs straight into a 50 watt plexi style bead with everything dimed. I tried it and it's pretty damn close. I never would have tried settings like that otherwise with tone knobs down to zero. Sorry for the hijack.

[fuzzface71]

Originally Posted by guitarfish

I think I've seen this before, but this morning for some reason, it made me cry specially after the 1st solo. I don't know why.

Clapton eventhough some (even me ) thinks can sometimes be boring. The man is a Guitar God for a reason. And me tearing is just an example of that fact.

Damn, I need to get that DVD! And yeah, if I can afford that guitar I would buy it in a heartbeat too! Who care if it's not accurate. Atleast Clapton "approved" it.

[frank4001]

Originally Posted by gmann

In the FWIW dept, a guy on the LPF bought one and posted a bunch of pics. The guitar looks fantastic with all the case candy that you would normally expect. After several pages of comments another guy posts the question, 'well, was it worth it? The OP posts back and says, 'no, not really, it just a glorified RO with a bunch of Clapton case candy'. This is what I was thinking lookin' at all his pics but I wouldn't post that, not my place to rain on someone else's parade. This is just marketing for Gibson, all in all probably a good business deal. They are in business to make money after all. Those that want it will buy it and those that can't afford it will make fun of it, it's this way with a lot of things. If you can afford it but think it's not worth it, don't buy it. Of all the signature models they've come out with I really did want a Duane back in the day. Stupid expensive then, much moreso now on EBAY. Most of the ones I saw looked nothing like Duane's, ie no reverse chevron/gull wing flame. I know guys that preordered these and waited forever and got one that looked nothing at all like a Duane, just an R9 with a really nice top. The best ones, IMO, have been the Bloomfields. The NOS ones look great and the aged ones look even better. However you could really do the same thing with an nicely topped R9 and some mismatched knobs. Same thing with the Peter Green ones. If I had a Bloomfield, 1st thing I would do is change the knobs, keeping the orig. mismatched ones for resale at some future date. As for the Beano Burst, it makes sense for Gibson to have one. For most people he's the reason they play a Les Paul. Also, it might serve to get EC playin' a Lester more often and to me that would be a good thing!

I agree with all this and would add that its the only Les Paul EC has had any input on so that adds to its value for some people. Also its a collectable so there is value for those folks. You can certaintly get your own version of the "Beano" tones with any number of less expensive genuine Gibson Les Pauls. I think used G0's, 58's, '57's, standards and Classics with or without pickup changes are awsome values. Studio's too.. I couldn't be happier with the '06 G0 I picked up in right here a few months ago.. No one is forcing anyone to buy these things but if you want it, and it gets you going then spend the dough, don't think twice, and enjoy yourself. If you end up selling down the road you could be really happy or lose some dough but rationalize the experience like a trip to Vegas. Its how you look at it...All the condemnation is really not really warrated in my view. Its not like the company is forcing this on anyone.

[gmann]

Originally Posted by Nuclearfishin

I just read an article where they talk about how ec got his tone from from a les Paul, specifically on sunshine of your love. Basically he puts the selector switch in the middle, rolls the tone knob off on both pickups, volume on bridge to 6, volume on neck to 10, and then plugs straight into a 50 watt plexi style bead with everything dimed. I tried it and it's pretty damn close. I never would have tried settings like that otherwise with tone knobs down to zero. Sorry for the hijack.

Did the article also say that it was his Les Paul Custom that was used on Sunshine Of Your Love and not his Burst, which was stolen a couple of yrs prior?

[FenderBigot]

Originally Posted by fuzzface71

I think I've seen this before, but this morning for some reason, it made me cry speacially after the 1st solo. I don't know why.

Clapton eventhough some (even me ) thinks can sometimes be boring. The man is a Guitar God for a reason. And me tearing is just an example of that fact.

Damn, I need to get that DVD! And yeah, if I can afford that guitar I would buy it in a heartbeat too! Who care if it's not accurate. Atleast Clapton "approved" it.

You gotta love Mr. May nodding his head in approval at the 2:57 mark!

Originally Posted by David Vee

Yup, it was worth doing... just like a beer commercial reworking of a song. Cash in his pocket... that buys many blessings.

Dude... do you really think EC needs money nowadays? Geez

AND... anyone that knows anything about Mr. Clapton knows that it's pretty clear he kept the first 5 for the Crossroads guitar auction he does regularly.

[joolzriff]

Originally Posted by zestystrat

For the kind of $$ they are prob going to be asking for this thing, it should sprout legs and score H for the player. LOL

funny!