Thorn.....opinion please....

[scott]

Regardless of what people think about the shape, Rons guitars are works of art. He puts his heart and soul into it and he loves his work. Not only that but he is a super nice guy.......almost too nice. He wouldnt make it in prison....lol. I dont know where that came from. Anyway, anyone who can craft a guitar to the quality that Ron can gets my utmost respect.
A guy could sit down and draft something totally original but guess what, people probably wouldnt buy it. Guitarists are stupidly traditional. They hate change. If people dont buy your guits then you got to get a regular job, or go hungry. Regular jobs suck ass!! Ive had plenty of them I know.
Some people will always be negative, they will always be the ones to point out the negative and those people probably arent much fun to be around. You might call them ani-positive. When I look at Rons guitars all I see is positive, art, beauty and craftsmanship. It looks like a DC Gibson a little bit but its taken to a much higher level.

Thats all I have to say about that.




www.heatleyguitars.com

A guy could sit down and draft something totally original but guess what, people probably wouldnt buy it. Guitarists are stupidly traditional. They hate change. If people dont buy your guits then you got to get a regular job, or go hungry. Regular jobs suck ass!! Ive had plenty of them I know. Some people will always be negative, they will always be the ones to point out the negative and those people probably arent much fun to be around. You might call them ani-positive. When I look at Rons guitars all I see is positive, art, beauty and craftsmanship. It looks like a DC Gibson a little bit but its taken to a much higher level.

Let me clear something up: I'm not saying anything negative about the guitars. I'm saying the design closely replicates a competing model from another company. If you interpret that as a negative, that is up to you.

And thanks for the personal comments. I'll take them under advisement along with Peterson's.

[Testudo]

I am going to bash my head against a concrete wall now, for your personal enjoyment.
Here is the point I believe has been made many times in this thread:
The Gibson '59 LP Jr doublecut has inspired the design of many guitars that followed. See example below - LP Jr, Hamer Studio, PRS Santana, Thorn.

All subsequent designs are based on the LP Junior. If Thorn is basing his guitars' shape on another design, it's the LP - which is the same thing Hamer and Santana have done.
Ow, my head hurts.

[Ron Thorn]

Shoot...I designed something just like this...but with a koa heel, back to the drawing board.

[Ron Thorn]

...and for the official record, not that it really matters much, I had a plexiglass template from an ESP Bass body that they used to offer years ago. I used that to get the basic geometry and tweaked from there.

[big mike]

Originally posted by Ericsson

And thanks for the personal comments. I'll take them under advisement along with Peterson's.

Cool. Glad we could help.

[big mike]

Originally posted by Ron Thorn
Shoot...I designed something just like this...but with a koa heel, back to the drawing board.

Can you do those in a 13EE Ron, and in Pimp Daddy Purple? Those would look great with my football jersey.

[daveS]

Originally posted by Ron Thorn
Shoot...I designed something just like this...but with a koa heel, back to the drawing board.

Oh No ! Ron . . . please don't tell us that these are your "personal stash" . .

Originally posted by big mike
Cool. Glad we could help.

You're going head to head with him for title of chief tool. Good to see it's alright for some of you to not follow the "rules".

[Scott Peterson]

If you are defined by your actions, then posting on a thread with your opinion and no facts or context is stirring the pot.

Stirring the pot by serial posting on one thread as the main "bad guy" and posting every few posts to again bring your opinion is well, trolling.

It is no flame, and it is nothing but what it is. I wouldn't know Ericsson from anybody else on the street.

I just get a kick out of how folks act on the internet sometimes.

You get called out for doing what you are doing and you just waive it back. Transference. Where is the proof, the context, the backstory that backs up your postition on this matter?

Ericsson, if you have anything to add other than stirring the pot for no apparent reason.... why continue? Seems pointless.

You made your opinion known, and redefined it over and over whilst others presented photos as proof that you were oversimplifying. You add nothing else to back up your claim that the Thorns are nothing but Santana rip-offs.

Though, they aren't as others and even Ron himself points out very clearly.

Simple as that.

You think I'm a troll?

I think you're a tool.

[Scott Peterson]

Originally posted by Ericsson
You think I'm a troll?

I think you're a tool.

You are indeed what you are.

I won't bother with an email, you know the next step.

I was "Chief Tool" and then demoted to just "tool". At least I wasn't "Chef Tool".

[big mike]

Hey Scott, I'm tied with you for cheif tool, or were you demoted?

Anyway. Signature updated.

[Scott Peterson]

Originally posted by big mike
Hey Scott, I'm tied with you for cheif tool, or were you demoted?

Anyway. Signature updated.

I think you and I were Cheif Tool and I got demoted.

Man, I can't catch a break anywhere right now.

[e-z]

You know, I just re-read all the posts and although I think calling someone a tool is out of line, the rest of his posts weren't aggressive and were in fact very civil. The one exception being the post where he said:

"You're saying that he sat down with a blank piece of paper, put his chin in has hand, and through hours of design arrived at a result that looks almost identical to a Santana? This is some example of convergent evolution that by chance captured a group of disaffected PRS customers? You're dreaming."

Now, aside from being insulting to Mr. Thorn, this is just one guy's opinion. As far as him trolling, I think he was just responding to everybody's mockery. He just got defensive and couldn't let it go.

For the record, I don't own a Thorn or a PRS and openly support the idea that every guitar is different. Just ask my wife.