ENGL E580 discontinued??

[Guitartrue]

I was looking amps in ENGL website, when I clic into rack section and ENGL's top preamp did not appear. So it's discontinued?? Why? it doesn't make sense, is the best pre from engl.
What we could expect any new preamp?

[grunge782]

1. Preamps just aren't that popular. With all the little heads being released, people don't seem that interested in big rack rigs.

2. The E580 was also one of their most expensive preamps. Most people can't justify spending that much on a preamp

3. It really wasn't that well known and some people weren't that impressed by it.

Most guys going for an Engl preamp either went with the e530 or the e570. They just weren't selling.

[7StringJazz]

Originally Posted by grunge782

1. Preamps just aren't that popular. With all the little heads being released, people don't seem that interested in big rack rigs.

2. The E580 was also one of their most expensive preamps. Most people can't justify spending that much on a preamp

3. It really wasn't that well known and some people weren't that impressed by it.

Most guys going for an Engl preamp either went with the e530 or the e570. They just weren't selling.

Yeah I looked at the 580 at one time but the price was not gonna work. Got a 570 instead. Still have it and love it. I sold off all my other preamps including:
Mesa: Studio, Quad, & Triaxes
Custom Audio 3+SE, VHT GP3, etc.

The Engl does clean/jazz to death metal, has a built in noisegate, and numerous I/O options, MIDI control and is in stereo. A great preamp.

[dr_martijn]

Gonna have to score one second hand or NOS then 'cause I know I want one eventually. The 580 had just one flaw, IMHO, and that was the price. Quite expensive. But man is it tricked out and does it sound awesome . Had the pleasure of using it with a VHT 2902, a G-force and two Bogner 4x12's for an hour and it was just a blast.

[robertkoa]

Originally Posted by 7StringJazz

Yeah I looked at the 580 at one time but the price was not gonna work. Got a 570 instead. Still have it and love it. I sold off all my other preamps including:
Mesa: Studio, Quad, & Triaxes
Custom Audio 3+SE, VHT GP3, etc.

The Engl does clean/jazz to death metal, has a built in noisegate, and numerous I/O options, MIDI control and is in stereo. A great preamp.

Hey 7String - is the Vintage Setting on the Preamp warm enough to do fat jazz and fusion tones or do you wish it had a Vintage/Modern/ MORE Vintage switch on it ?

Actually good enough that you don't miss the Custom Audio 3 +Se ?

[Guitartrue]

a friend of mine have one and I play with it live one day, and hear it a lot of times. Only with Rock settings but I can tell you this preamp sounds huge! great cristaline clean to high gain. Jose de Castro uses it so I think it can do jazz fusion very well.

you can hear it on this videos
this is the spanish guitarist Jose de Castro (suhr endoser) and you can see here using this preamp.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWUrI8n8PFE&feature=fvst

this is me playing, at the left (bad quality)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqmIFm3Hc-U

and this is my friends band
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX0cJ...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87X5c...eature=related

[nullin]

Nuts, I've always wanted to check that preamp out. It was on my "gear to buy if I ever run into a STUPID amount of money" list. The control for a preamp is incredible.

But yes, it was expensive, and the e570 isn't far off in it's versatility.

I wonder if these things will go up crazy in price like the X-99's . . . which is the only other tube preamp I can think of that has total MIDI recall for every single control.