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Old 07-11-2005, 04:39 AM
AndreasG AndreasG is offline
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EL 34 tubes - what's best?

I tried JJ Teslas and found them good sounding in my 73 Marshall. Are there better ones out there? Svetlanas, Ruby, Sovteks, EH's...not considering NOS?
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Old 07-11-2005, 05:28 AM
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Last time I talked to Greg Leevy he reccomended Siemens, they are NOS but they are stoopid cheap.
The only problem with them is that they may not handle the plate voltage that a 73 SL can dish out.

That would be a good deal if it works but I think the plate voltage on metal panel Marshals is really high. I have one, you'd think I'd have it memorized by now.

If and when I re-tube mine I will probably get the Mullards. For the amount of time I use this amp they will last me a lifetime. My 73' 100W SL is damn near the loudest thing on god's green earth.
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Old 07-11-2005, 05:30 AM
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Out of the ones I've tried I've liked Svetlanas the most. Not Sovtek/Svetlana, but the "winged C" Svetlana. I think they go by SED in USA?
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Old 07-11-2005, 05:54 AM
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Out of the ones I've tried I've liked Svetlanas the most. Not Sovtek/Svetlana, but the "winged C" Svetlana. I think they go by SED in USA?
What Laxu said. They go by Svetlana Electron Devices, St Petersburg Russia. "winged C" is all you really have to remember.
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Old 07-11-2005, 06:26 AM
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"winged C".....someone states they sound more "hi-fi" with less breakup.... looking for classic Marshall sound. My Marshall is a 50-watter, used with a Hotplate and Strats, Firebirds, hardly any pedal (just an OD or Treble Booster sometimes..)
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Old 07-11-2005, 07:15 AM
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The Marshall DSL50 I had actually came with Svetlanas. I don't think they're "hi-fi" really, they have a nice warm and smooth character to me and seem to work very well in a Marshall.
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Old 07-11-2005, 07:34 AM
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I like JJ E34Ls. I keep trying others; EH, Winged C, Svetlana, etc... but keep going back. They just sound more robust, especially in the top end.
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Old 07-11-2005, 09:06 AM
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Ill say it again...new sensor mullards are pretty cool.--Cheers-Ig
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Old 07-11-2005, 09:19 AM
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I like JJ E34Ls. I keep trying others; EH, Winged C, Svetlana, etc... but keep going back. They just sound more robust, especially in the top end.
+1 My 72 Marshall 50 watt loves the JJ E34Ls. I haven't found a EL34 that can compete with them and this includes vintage NOS tubes.

There is none better IMHO.

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Old 07-11-2005, 12:00 PM
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I just got some Winged C Svets and both matched quads are microphonic and buxzzing like hell. Me no likey. I sent one set back and got a replacement and they still do it.
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Old 07-11-2005, 12:01 PM
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another +1 on the JJ's - i just changed tubes in my matchless clubman from svetlanas to JJ's & it made a noticable diffrence on some stuff we've been recording.

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p.s. also they are what fred uses in /13s (i have an rsa23) & he is usually pretty right aobut this sort of stuff...
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Old 07-11-2005, 12:36 PM
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If you take a JJ EL34 and a Mullard XF2,
you'll see how the insides look identical,
same machining.
That said, I think the JJ is the best sounding
current production, but the Wing C svet
is more reliable.
Why I switched to the C. They sound good
too, but the JJ is a step better tonally.
NOS? Mullard EL34's can't be beat,
I'm stocked for life!
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Old 07-11-2005, 01:54 PM
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In my Allen Class Act, I prefer Svets, Chinese el34b, and winged Cs, in that order. The Chinese tube is bright in a good way, which is important since my Allen is a little on the dark side of the tonal spectrum. The Svet is very rich in harmonics, I like it very much.
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Old 07-11-2005, 02:43 PM
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I just got some Winged C Svets and both matched quads are microphonic and buxzzing like hell. Me no likey. I sent one set back and got a replacement and they still do it.
Interesting. No tube brand/type is immune from problems, but I haven't had this experience with over 1000 sold.
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Old 07-11-2005, 02:49 PM
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I'd never say that a particular tube is "best" but my favorite EL34 is a 6CA7

...the EH version to be precise.

But my tastes don't necessarily align with yours. They often don't with most folks around here.
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