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Old 07-15-2005, 12:40 PM
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Stetsbar question

Did they redesign it? I seem to remember it being a lot fuglier than it is here:

http://www.stetsbar.com/news.htm
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Old 07-15-2005, 02:37 PM
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OEM Stetsbar

The Stetsbar was originally designed for retroifitting on LP type guitars where the larger baseplate was needed to fit onto the stop tail post holes. These are still available from Eric. You probably remember something like this:



The newer model is for OEM guitars that are designed to use the Stetsbar from the start. The baseplate simply screws directly onto the top of the guitar and sits underneath the sliding assembly. This new design makes the trem look very sleek:



There are more pictures here.

I love it and so do my clients that have it on their guitars. Personally it is my favorite trem design by a longshot and Eric Stets is a great guy to work with. If you have a guitar to retrofit or one you designing with a builder give him a call. He can customize them if he doesn't have what you need already.

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Old 07-15-2005, 03:01 PM
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Dave,
I have said in other threads but, your guitar on the Stetsbar site (#22) is STUNNING! Very nice. And nice job on the redesign of the vibrato unit too!
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Old 07-15-2005, 07:10 PM
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Re: OEM Stetsbar

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I love it and so do my clients that have it on their guitars. Personally it is my favorite trem design by a longshot and Eric Stets is a great guy to work with. If you have a guitar to retrofit or one you designing with a builder give him a call. He can customize them if he doesn't have what you need already.

~David [/B]
David - any way you can comment onthe sound vis a vis a hardtail? (i'm thinking that it uses a TOM as part of it, and thatwith your building ex[pertise you would have more experience and more valid opinion about it)

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Old 07-15-2005, 08:29 PM
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David,

Do you know if the OEM stetsbar would be suitable for using with guitars that currently have wraparound tailpieces. I'm fairly certain the original version won't and it looks like a stetsbar would be better than routing the body to put in a more traditional trem. Also, what's the range on the stetsbar like. Is it bigsby-ish, fenderish, or floydish?

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Old 07-17-2005, 11:56 AM
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that is absolutely gorgeous, david! but i think i've already told you so. tell me. the oem is simply the stock stets minus the border plate, am i right? that would look SO bloody great on my '61 reissue les p/sg!!! the look of the original, plus the fact that i've been waiting for a shyway (oops! howzat for a freudian?!!), i mean skyway (i just do not envision ever getting one of these. i mean, c'mon, it's been 2 years, it ain't gonna happen unless my name is jeff beck), has kept me from pulling the trigger on the stets. but THIS guitar of dave's is just stunning! i think i've made up my mind.


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Old 07-17-2005, 12:03 PM
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I can't help but laugh at the baseless enthusiasm/faith that some people will place in something like a Stestbar. The crux of the issue rests squarely on the other side of the guitar. Without straight stringpull and a reduced headstock angle you're simply pissing up a rope.
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Old 07-17-2005, 01:02 PM
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i'm not sure i understand what you mean re straight stringpull, at least as regards this, matte. headstock, yeah, of course. but the nearest to a "straight pull" would probably only be afforded by a locking bridge, ala floyd. izzat what you mean? because the unlocked systems that load strings from behind are taking a right angle turn, which is even more that what this stet's seems to be doing. or the skyway, for that matter. as far as i can tell, that's not pulling straight, either. i'm a bit confuselo. in any event, i certainly couldn't put any blind faith into a unit i've never seen in the flesh. wishful hoping might be more accurate, especially if you've been waiting for a solution for 2-3 years. btw, have you tried one?


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Old 07-17-2005, 01:11 PM
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i'm not sure i understand what you mean re straight stringpull, at least as regards this, matte. headstock, yeah, of course. but the nearest to a "straight pull" would probably only be afforded by a locking bridge, ala floyd. izzat what you mean?

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I'm simply referring to a straight stringpull headstock design. Nothing more.
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Old 07-17-2005, 01:40 PM
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ah yes, of course. i wonder if you can have an sg's headstock reset straight?


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Old 07-17-2005, 01:49 PM
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ah yes, of course. i wonder if you can have an sg's headstock reset straight?


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Absolutely. Just dowel the tuner post holes and redrill. Steinberger Gearless tuners would work perfectly.
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Old 07-17-2005, 02:12 PM
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Absolutely. Just dowel the tuner post holes and redrill. Steinberger Gearless tuners would work perfectly.
MATTE!!!! yer a fekkin' GENE-yes!!!! i could kiss ya! i was thinkin' headstock tilt, when you just meant in a straight line. DOH!!! thanx!


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Old 07-17-2005, 02:19 PM
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MATTE!!!! yer a fekkin' GENE-yes!!!! i could kiss ya! i was thinkin' headstock tilt, when you just meant in a straight line. DOH!!! thanx!


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Genius? Definitely not. I'm just a guy whose fixated on having a Lester construction guitar with a totally functional and stable non locking(with the exception of the tuners) whammy bar setup.
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Old 07-17-2005, 11:46 PM
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Somehow that sounds so much better (and more realistic) than my fixation on a pair of Swedish stewardesses and a bottle of Wesson oil...
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Old 07-17-2005, 11:53 PM
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Somehow that sounds so much better (and more realistic) than my fixation on a pair of Swedish stewardesses and a bottle of Wesson oil...
No offense, I like your's better Dave...of course, looking like me, obsessing about guitars would be much smarter.
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