Bogner 2x12 cab question

Hey guys,
I am about to invest in a Bogner 2x12 cab. I'm into the open backs, and I can't decide if I want to get the Oversize 2x12 open back or the smaller shiva 2x12 open back cab. I would be playing this through an OD-100 head and I would be mainly be playing Fusion, Blues, Bebop, Jazz, Classic Rock,(Scott Henderson-tribal tech, Robben Ford, Trey Anastasio, Jimmy Herring, New John Scofield).
Until my OD-100 arrives I will be using this cab as an extension to my Fender Deluxe Reverb Reissue.
I can't decide which cab to get, because I am not playing really at very high volumes for most of the gigs that I do(small to medium-large clubs usually)but I do want a very full sound, but acheivable at low volumes.
Please, everybody who has heard both cabs or either one individually, PLEASE give me your opinion on this. And please tell me which cab you would reccomend for me.
Mp3's are more than welcome!!!
Thanks,
Steve

[Ken]

I have the big 2x12 in an open back...

I really like it...except it is heavy...Glad it has casters, but loading it into the car is a a bit of a task for an old man...

I have thought about going to the Shiva sized cab myself...I don't think it would be that much of a problem for your gigs and volume levels...

Last I knew, Leon uses the Shiva cab for some of his amps and gigs and I think he's pretty happy with it...

But make sure your speaker will handle the power of the OD100...I blew one of my H30's because I was cranking the 80 watt Shiva head a few times just too much

[RichSZ]

There are so many cabs out there, but if the Bogner is the one you want, you may find the oversized cab just a bit boomy. If you are cranking a high gain amp thru the oversized it would probably sound fantastic, but I think with the amp and style of music you are playing the smaller cab will probably sound much better and more clear.

Any typical Bluesbreaker sized cab would probably get the job done perfectly. What speakers are you going to play that thing through?

Consider the option of buying a cab unloaded and getting your speakers from Dave at Avatar (www.avatarspeakers.com)...or even better, check out one of the loaded cabs that he sells (great quality and an awesome price).

Nothing worse than a huge cab to muddy up your sound.

-Rich

Thanks guys for the fast replys!
I'm thinking the Shiva cab is the way to go, I would really love to hear some mp3 clips!!!
Also, what kind of speakers do you reccomend for what I'm doing?

[RGN]

I am using a oversized, closed back Bogner 2x12 with a Diezel VH-4 head and think it is the rig to end all rigs I also have used a VHT 100CL head with the cab... it was great also.

The 2X12 fits easily into my trunk (laying on its back) and sounds as good or better than many 4X12s I have owned (Marshall, Genz-Benz and Mesa). I think for your head I'd go with the oversized model. It can be open or closed back and would work well with that head. The Shiva 2X12 is too small for my tastes and would look goofy with a big 100 watt monster sitting on it

Oi Vay, I hate this...Now I don't know which one to get! THis is so confusing...

Anybody here that can solve this problem?!?

[Ken]

Originally posted by Jellobello45
Anybody here that can solve this problem?!?

Well...The Lead guitarist for the house band on the TV Show Rockstar:INXS uses the bigger 2x12 Bogner Cab in the studio at rehersal, plus his Shiva amps I notice things like this while watching

So maybe that will help you...If in doubt, go with the bigger cab...And if you determine down the road that its not for you, then sell it...You should not have a problem as they are very popular cabs.

Well, your defintly right, but the last thing that I would ever want is a woofy sound at low volumes. I need clear and pronounced. I mean, think about it like this, 30 to 40 watts is more than enough than what I use. I just don't want it to sound akward...
Any advice?

[RGN]

How would this monster look on a Shiva sized 2X12??




Or this one...


I'd use dual 1X12 Bogner cabs before I'd use the small-ish Shiva cab. Trust me.. go with the oversized model. The other cab I'd suggest would be the Splawn 2X12 which is basically a clone of the oversized Bogner... it is fantastic also..

[Ken]

I don't have any Woof coming out of my Cab
I play at low volumes all the time.

[RGN]

By the way, I am running Vintage 30s in my 2X12. I may be going to one Vintage 20 and one 12/75 to see how I like it.

Well, I meant more boomy than woofy, atleast that's what the guy up top said. And boomy is pretty bad.

Are those pictures of the deisel heads on top of the oversized 2x12 bogner cab?

The more we talk about this cab, the more it helps...I loved to be bombarded with information about products before I buy something

[RGN]

Yes, that is the oversized model....

Man, some mp3's would be really awsome to hear!
Words can only say so much, but music can say 1,000 words in one note, you know.