Small Tweed Amp, but bigger and louder?

[dtirer]

I got a Swart 6v6se recently and love it. Great for small rooms and the studio.

I have an old Plexi that i use on the road, which i also love.

I'm wondering is there a tweed champ / princeton style amp, that has that complex distortion, and with that crazy sag, somewhere in the 20-30 watt range? Something that could be used on some bigger stages.

[DraggAmps]

I was going to say the Nolatone June Bug with the High Power Option, but that's still only 10 watts. Possibly the Nolatone 22 Tango?

[mep]

Try a Tungsten Crema Wheat. It is 20 watts of tweed beauty.

[Bluzeboy]

If you love your Swart.. why not a space tone or space tone 30? Same basic design.

[Killcrop]

Vicky Super is worth checking out.

[doublescale1]

Victoria Double Deluxe - same 5E3 preamp but 4 6V6 power tubes and a 2X12 cab. You can go for more sag with a 5Y3 rectifier at 30 watts, or go for max headroom with a 5AR4 rectifier and 40 watts. If you order new, you can get a pent/triode mod done to give you a 1/2 power option for smaller rooms, or just more breakup sooner than full power. All pine traditional tweed deluxe cab build, just bigger to accommodate the 2X12's. A great gigging tweed amp that delivers more of what you love the 5E3 for (also no trad tweed deluxe low end flub at higher volume).

[cr8z4life]

Try a Louis electric buster........loudest small amp I have heard!

[crzyfngers]

i have one of these. love it to death. i had him put a jbl in it. quite the little beast.
http://www.fultonwebbamps.com/deluxe18.php

[willie k]

+1 on the Nolatone 22 Tango!!!!!!!

[thesjkexperienc]

I have a Swart AST Pro and an SST-30 and either can be dialed in to sag, or not, depending on power and rectifier tubes.

[Marshamps]

The Double Deluxes got too hot. They use a Deluxe reverb PT. A 6L6 High Powered Tweed Deluxe with a Vin30 or P12Q will be my pick. But make sure it's built with a 6L6 B+ not just another Deluxe reverb PT.

[dtirer]

wow guys thanks for all these suggestions, will investigate them all!

[bynt]

Every time I play my little Supro Velveteen I get yelled at for being too loud. Srsly. It's a FANTASTIC little amplifier. All kidding aside, it's the first amp I've ever owned where people snicker at it when I go up on stage and then their faces get melted... That thing just roars. It's expensive and it's a 10' speaker but good god it's got tone and volume for 13 watts. Don't let the rating fool you. I played with keys, farily heavy hitting drummer, Bass with a full rig, harp player/singer and another guitarist pushing a Carr and had to turn down. It just cuts through like a mother. Loves pedals, too. I didn't get it from these guys but it's a good picture and overview:

http://www.rocketmusic.net/cgi-bin/c...ction&key=3202

[dtirer]

out of curiosity, in terms of older fenders and marshalls, were there any made in the the 20 - 30 watt range that were similar to that sound im talking about?

im guessing the other tweed fenders? (deluxe, bassmanm etc)?

[wyatt]

Originally Posted by dtirer

out of curiosity, in terms of older fenders and marshalls, were there any made in the the 20 - 30 watt range that were similar to that sound im talking about?

im guessing the other tweed fenders? (deluxe, bassmanm etc)?

The midrange tweeds were the Super/Pro/Bandmaster at 30-35 watts. These were the same circuit in different speaker configurations (and therefore different output transformers).

As for Marshall, the legendary JTM-45 is actually a 30-watt amp.