Dimarzio Cruiser or Injector users?

[6Tones]

Opinions?

[just_one_more]

You can count me a very happy injectors user. I have to say up front that I am not a vintage single coil guy. I am a PAF humbucker user for the most part. Every few years I would get the itch to try the latest greatest singles noiseless and traditional. Messed with heights, string gauges etc. etc. I almost always loved the clean tones, but most of what I play is over-driven rock type stuff. All the single coils ranged from just not my thing to totally annoying when over-driven (and yes, I reset my amp, used the tone controls, different cap values and types). Standard humbucker sized (as opposed to noiseless singles) singles I liked, but I already have that covered really well.
Got the bug again and decied to try the Injectors. The EQ graphs and output level seemed like it might be something that I would like. I totally dig them. Had them for almost 2 months now and I still really like them. They are still single coil sounding, and have nice chime, but sound good over-driven as well. I do roll the tone control down (I have my strat done with a tone on each of the middle and bridge, none on the neck) just a number of 2 when doing heavier bridge pickup work. They do clean tones great. To me they are about half way between a vintage single coil tone and a single coil sized humbucker. Just for reference I tried a friends guitar with Area 58 and 61 and those are exactly the opposite of what I want in a single coil. Overly bright, thin, and weak for my purposes. Injectors are warmer, hotter (but not too hot) with a much better (or actually present) low end.
Edited this to add:
What Dimarzio calls Creme is pretty much impossible to match. What they call aged white is more along the lines of what most makers of knobs, etc call creme.

[brianr0131]

Injector is very nice. I just got a Super Distortion S and it's the best rail pickup I have ever heard before. Sounds like a Badass humbucker.

[9fingers]

I have a neck Cruiser - pretty close to "strat" tones (I have tried most of the DiMarzio Rails). The Cruiser is the lowest output DM rail- really nice & woody & clear. Not a hyperwound rock pickup- much closer to single coil. I'm going to try the Andy Timmons thing & try a Cruiser Bridge pickup in the neck slot too- a little more bottom and a hair more output.
The Fast Track is also a pretty "stratty" pickup but with more beef & overtones than the Cruiser.
Cool thing about the DiMarzio Rails- they make every flavor of output. Nice rich tones on all. Replaceable covers for color choice too.
I also found the Areas to be thin for my taste- the rails fill things out nicely.
I will try the Injectors sometime- I like DiMarzio a lot.

[6Tones]

Are you running 250k or 500k tone pots?

[eMs]

Have a cruiser (bridge) in the neck of one of my guitars. LOVE IT. Sounds beautiful. It´s fatter and a tad darker than a single coil, but still retains some of the bite you can't get with a HB.

[nwobhm_uk]

I have an injector in the neck of a custom built superstrat. Mahaogony body, maple cap and oiled finish. Sounds sweet, almost violin like at times, I love it....

[9fingers]

250 K pots & .022 tone cap with my Cruiser, Fast Track, Pro Track guitar. They are not dull at all with the 250K's.

[just_one_more]

I just ordered a Virtual Vintage® 54 Pro (DP408) to use in the middle position. I have Injectors as mentioned in a previous post. I have been doing some research on a good middle pickup to go with them (besides the full Gilbert set with an area 67 in the middle as I don't care for those). I will be getting it in a day or 2 and can make some audio files if you are interested in hearing the complete set.

[6Tones]

are you using 250k tone pots?

Originally Posted by 9fingers

I have a neck Cruiser - pretty close to "strat" tones (I have tried most of the DiMarzio Rails). The Cruiser is the lowest output DM rail- really nice & woody & clear. Not a hyperwound rock pickup- much closer to single coil. I'm going to try the Andy Timmons thing & try a Cruiser Bridge pickup in the neck slot too- a little more bottom and a hair more output.
The Fast Track is also a pretty "stratty" pickup but with more beef & overtones than the Cruiser.
Cool thing about the DiMarzio Rails- they make every flavor of output. Nice rich tones on all. Replaceable covers for color choice too.
I also found the Areas to be thin for my taste- the rails fill things out nicely.
I will try the Injectors sometime- I like DiMarzio a lot.

[Marty s Horne]

David McNaught is building me a strat with 3 Injector pickups. I'll post a tone report after I've played some gigs with it.

[9fingers]

Originally Posted by 6Tones

are you using 250k tone pots?

See my post above- we must have posted about the same time.

[MrMunky]

The injector is probably my favorite "silent" single coil. At least the neck-position version. I haven't heard the bridge version yet.

Here's a clip:

http://www.inrerocknroll.com/tunes/Jive.mp3

[9fingers]

Update on the Cruiser- I got a Cruiser bridge pickup and did install it into the neck slot - a touch fuller bottom and a hair more output than the neck Cruiser. Fantastic neck pickup! Woody, rich, complex, but still very clear & "stratty" but fuller than a single. Great clean or cranked.

MrMunky, My Windows Media Player won't open your clip. Too bad- I'm curious about the Injectors.

[SoCalSteve]

Originally Posted by 9fingers

Update on the Cruiser- I got a Cruiser bridge pickup and did install it into the neck slot - a touch fuller bottom and a hair more output than the neck Cruiser. Fantastic neck pickup! Woody, rich, complex, but still very clear & "stratty" but fuller than a single. Great clean or cranked.

MrMunky, My Windows Media Player won't open your clip. Too bad- I'm curious about the Injectors.

Are you still using/liking the Cruiser bridge in the neck?

I've got an HSS Strat that I'm contemplating putting 1 in the neck slot.