.013 to .056 D'addario's in HSS Strat

[ganzosrevenge]

A friend of mine wants me to put .013 to .056 D'Addario's on his HSS American Deluxe Strat. My reservation is that the strings will not clear the nut. (The biggest i've done is .012 to .052, and that's for my strat). Am I going to run into issues with 13s in his strat?

Jason

 

[shakeshakeshake]

The neck will look like a U

 

[Help!I'maRock!]

you'll probably have to recut the nut and straighten the truss rod. otherwise, its no problem at all. the guitar can take it.

 

[ganzosrevenge]

The neck will look like a U

going from 11-49 to 13-56

you'll probably have to recut the nut and straighten the truss rod. otherwise, its no problem at all. the guitar can take it.

how do you recut an LSR nut... and a 13 will fit into the LSR?

anyone with an LSR and 13s chime in?

Jason

 

[musicofanatic5]

going from 11-49 to 13-56



how do you recut an LSR nut... and a 13 will fit into the LSR?

Jason

Probly not. I used to install some of those nuts when they came out and I recall they are specific to string gauge.

 

[Help!I'maRock!]

aha. LSR. you either need to order a new nut that accepts 13s or forget about it entirely.

 

[ganzosrevenge]

Probly not. I used to install some of those nuts when they came out and I recall they are specific to string gauge.

I thought that was the wilkinsons that were gauge specific

 

[Help!I'maRock!]

I thought that was the wilkinsons that were gauge specific

you should be able to go up as high as 12s on either. 13s are likely to pose problems.

try the low E string first. if it works, great. if not, stick with the 11s.

 

[germs]

No, LSR will not accept 13's. They are sized to a specific range of gauges that are most popular. You can order another one that would fit.

If it was a traditional nut you could always re-cut. But why so high? Is he trying to be SRV? 12's are hard enough, especially at standard pitch...

 

[ganzosrevenge]

I press hard on the strings... so anything below an 11 will be pushed sharp. I'm not a light player, however I have modded my strat so it is easier to play with 11s.

 

[baseballnolie34]

I briefly put 13's on a strat I later sold, and didn't like it at all in standard tuning. Dropped C though....

 

[ganzosrevenge]

Emailed fender.

I got an email from Rob Schwarz, he contacted the inventor of the LSR nut, apparently a .013 to .056 will fit. the high e is designed to go as high as 14s.


Jason

 

[kimock]

But why so high? Is he trying to be SRV? 12's are hard enough, especially at standard pitch...

I've had my '60 Strat strung 14-62, standard pitch for the last 30 years.
It's real playable, comfortable, stable etc.
It's a pain in the ass to make the transition from the slinky thing to the heavy string gauge, but that's mostly learning to deal with the wound third imo.

Once you get over that initial hump, it's no big deal to switch back and forth between those gauges.
They both have good things to offer that you can't get with the other set up.

It's worth it just for that. Not necessarily to cop anybody else's trip, but to see where else you can go with yours.

 

[Jerrod]

I've had my '60 Strat strung 14-62, standard pitch for the last 30 years.
It's real playable, comfortable, stable etc.
It's a pain in the ass to make the transition from the slinky thing to the heavy string gauge, but that's mostly learning to deal with the wound third imo.

Once you get over that initial hump, it's no big deal to switch back and forth between those gauges.
They both have good things to offer that you can't get with the other set up.

It's worth it just for that. Not necessarily to cop anybody else's trip, but to see where else you can go with yours.

Steve,
I haven't compared such a big difference (10s to 14s for example) but it seems that although the string tension for such a set would be high, the finger force (it's a technical term) for bending 1/2 step, full step, etc wouldn't be a lot different. Is that your experience?

 

[ganzosrevenge]

I've had my '60 Strat strung 14-62, standard pitch for the last 30 years.
It's real playable, comfortable, stable etc.
It's a pain in the ass to make the transition from the slinky thing to the heavy string gauge, but that's mostly learning to deal with the wound third imo.

Once you get over that initial hump, it's no big deal to switch back and forth between those gauges.
They both have good things to offer that you can't get with the other set up.

It's worth it just for that. Not necessarily to cop anybody else's trip, but to see where else you can go with yours.

mine started with a friend of mine wanting 13 to 56 and having the LSR nut. Another reason I like thicker strings is that they sustain better, hold tuning better, and they tend to have a bit of a meatier tone to them.

Jason

 

[101Volts]

The neck will look like a U

No, Guitar necks (That are made properly out of proper materials) Are strong and made for this sort of tension. A simple setup (And maybe replacing the nut) And the guitar will be good to go.

 

[ganzosrevenge]

long-term, it's ok to use 13s (for say a month or two)?

 

[Oakvillain]

My strat could barely take 11's. I can't imagine 13's. Good luck.

 

[101Volts]

My strat could barely take 11's. I can't imagine 13's. Good luck.

Come to think of it, It would be pretty hard to bend .13s on a Strat if the fretboard radius is a 9.50" or a 7.25". I like thick strings but have to stop somewhere if it starts getting really hard to bend. That being said, My ES 335 copy (Which has a 12" radius and 42 thousanths tall frets that are dressed well) Works well with thick strings. In fact, I wouldn't want to play anything thinner than .12s on it! So it all boils down to the guitar and what the player is comfortable with.

 

[XmasTree]

you'll probably have to recut the nut and straighten the truss rod. otherwise, its no problem at all. the guitar can take it.

THIS
..IT WILL ALSO BE A LOT OF TENSION
My prediction is that you will have to retune it constantly from it GOING SHARP