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18 Watt with Celestion Blue

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs' started by opdev, May 15, 2006.

  1. opdev

    opdev Member

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    I am considering a Weber 18W head.

    I would buy a separate open back cab (which I wanted for my Celestion Blue anyway).

    How would the amp be with that speaker or do I have to go Greenback.
     
  2. Reeek

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    With the Blue being rated at 15 watts, I wouldn't go there with a speaker that expensive. I may or may not survive on the cusp like that considering some tolerances and peak ratings.

    Try a ceramic or alnico 30 watt Weber Blue Dog is my recommendation. I love the ceramic 30 watt Blue Dogs with light dope. One of Ted's best speakers IMHO.
     
  3. OldSchool

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    Don't sell the Blue so short. We had a celestion Rep. here that said that speaker is very underated. Its good for almost 20-22 watts easy.

    I have played a Bruno Cow Tipper 22 that had a single Blue and it was beautiful.
     
  4. sdgvintage

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    + 1 on the Blue Dog.
     
  5. celestion101

    celestion101 Silver Supporting Member

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    18 watts should not be an issue. If you're worried, the Alnico Gold is on the way (50 watts).

    Cheers,
    Rick
     
  6. 908SSP

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    Only a Blue sounds like a Blue....I don't know what a Gold sounds like. I do know what the Webers sound like and they don't sound like a Blue.

    It would sound twice as good if you used two Blues...duh...:)
     
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    Aspen Pittman claims he know guys who put Blues into Twins -- that's 40w (or more) into each speaker! I don't know about that, but they are renowned for being underrated.
     
  8. Macaroni

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    I do. A bunch of us played the new Gold at the LA Amp Show last Sat. It sounds like a Blue, only 50W, therefore - Gold!
     
  9. Jeff Flowerday

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    Actually I heard one, it was phenominal! The volume knob never goes past 2 but it was the sweetest clean I've heard.
     
  10. Jeff Flowerday

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    Not sure if you are G12H30 fan but it's my favorite 18 Watt speaker. Especially the new Heritage.
     
  11. Steve Dallas

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    I've had several customers play 18W amps with a single Blue. I've never had a report of blowing one, although the amp will certainly push the speaker to its limits--especially if you play the amp cranked like most 18W players do.

    A Red Fang is another option and it is rated much higher.
     
  12. GDS Racing

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    I've heard that the reissue Blue is actually a 30W speaker. I don't know if that is true so don't necessarily take my word for that. However, I know that alot of the 18watt guys are running their amps with a single Blue and I don't recall ever hearing that anyone blew one up. I often run any of my amps through a 2-12 semi-open back cab with a pair of RI Blues. They sound great with my 100W D-clone.
     
  13. PFCG

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    get the celestion gold, its the 50 watt version
     
  14. BBQLS1

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    s2 and GDS would know.
     
  15. Moods

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    I've heard the same thing regarding the power rating (15 watts nom and 30 watts peak) My experience has been the same regarding durability... I have run blues in my AC15 clones, tweed Deluxes, Deluxe Reverbs... etc. without one problem for over 10 years. I push the crap out of them too. An 18 watt is a great sounding but wimpy amp. A blue gives the amp an extra kick. I wouldn't worry one bit. I had one in my 18 watt for years and it never had an issue.

    YMMV

    <M
     
  16. opdev

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    I already have a Blue and was thinking about building an 18W. That's why I asked.

    I don't need to know now since I just bought a 1974X HW :)
     
  17. myles111

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    I find the Vox Blue works very very well in 18 watt ( 2xEL84) amps.

    I cannot think of a better speaker, and it does have a 15 watt continuous / 30 watt peak capacity

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  18. GDS Racing

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    Congrats! You'll love that amp. I have one too, to go along with my GDS 18W amps. Have you tried to fit the Blue into that cab yet? I am afraid it might be tight, if not impossible.
     
  19. soulohio

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    i have Blue in a crate v16 - a 15 watt el84 amp....i checked with everyone i could including the celstion rep who posted here...he said don't worry about the power handling capabilities, so i don't. but i do have two observations:

    1. the bottom end is not so great. it is not tight and not deep. this in itself is not a knock on the speaker. i love the speaker.

    2. just playing by yourself (no band) i notice more hum/noise from the blue. no bad....it just seems to be a bit more pronounced from this speaker. i guess since you have one you may have heard this yourself.
     
  20. Ridgeback

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    Dr Z offers a blue in both the Maz 18 and Carmen Ghia combos. Depending on who you talk to, they are both more powerful than the 18 watts that they are listed at. I wouldn't think he would offer this speaker from the factory if there was any chance that it would not handle the power.
     

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