1963 Fender Super Reverb 2x10 ??

[Trotter]

So I met a guy who says he has a 1963 Fender Super Reverb 2x10... all original except the speakers.

Can anyone tell me about this amp... I'm not finding much online about it. I see a lot about the 4x10 Supers from the 60's, but not much of anything on a 63' 2x10 version.

What's a fair price to offer him assuming its in decent shape?

I'm not by any means a Fender guru so thanks in advance!

 

[JubileeMan 2555]

No such thing.

There is only 2 possibilities I can think of:

A) its a vibrolux reverb with a different faceplate

or

B) its a super reverb someone put into a different 2x10 cab

There WERE some oddities that came out of fender in 62 and 63, but nothing as severe as one amp name on a different body.

Got any pictures? That would help GREATLY.

 

[Trotter]

Maybe its a 63' Fender Super 2x10 (brown tolex)?? I'm confused as well!
Sorry no pics yet... I'm just waiting for him to call me back so I can go over and take a look at it.

 

[wingwalker]

In 1963 the 2x10 amp Fender offered was the Vibroverb...it is a 35ish watt 2x10 combo with reverb and vibrato however it is a brown tolex amp and bears little in common with a later Super Reverb. FWIW, this was also the ONLY amp Fender had in 1963 with built in reverb

 

[shuie]

Its probably a 2x12 Brown Super.

 

[Trotter]

According to this time line: http://www.ampwares.com/ffg/

"The 2 x 10" Super is replaced by the 4 x 10" Super Reverb."

So perhaps a 2x10 Super did exist??

 

[Trotter]

PS. The owner said its a Blackface... I'll continue to try and get more info...

 

[67super]

99.9% chance it's been put in a different cab over the years. .01% it's a 2x10 Super Reverb. Fender did make some one off type amps. There are pictures around that prove they did things like that. In the very unlikely event it's real it would be extremely valuable. Of course proving it would be almost impossible.

 

[shuie]

According to this time line: http://www.ampwares.com/ffg/

"The 2 x 10" Super is replaced by the 4 x 10" Super Reverb."

So perhaps a 2x10 Super did exist??

Yes, the 2x12 comment was a complete synaptic misfire All of the Brown Supers were 2x10

 

[Trotter]

99.9% chance it's been put in a different cab over the years. .01% it's a 2x10 Super Reverb. Fender did make some one off type amps. There are pictures around that prove they did things like that. In the very unlikely event it's real it would be extremely valuable. Of course proving it would be almost impossible.

I agree. The more research I do I really think it's just a 63' Super Reverb rehoused in 2x10 cab... still a great amp though!

 

[67super]

I agree. The more research I do I really think it's just a 63' Super Reverb rehoused in 2x10 cab... still a great amp though!

Agreed.
An old SR in a 2x10 cab could be a great sounding amp! A lot easier to lug around for sure.

 

[JDJ]

Could be a one-off. According to some Fender books, one-offs exist.

 

[BozoTone]

Be sure to check "model designation number". It should be AA763. I don't see anywhere that the 6G4 circuit (last of the 2X10 Supers) ever had reverb. If it is a "relabled" (faceplate change) Vibroverb, the model number is 6G16.....
BZT

 

[Trotter]

Be sure to check "model designation number". It should be AA763. I don't see anywhere that the 6G4 circuit (last of the 2X10 Supers) ever had reverb. If it is a "relabled" (faceplate change) Vibroverb, the model number is 6G16.....
BZT

great info! thanks!

 

[Axe_78th]

Agreed.
An old SR in a 2x10 cab could be a great sounding amp! A lot easier to lug around for sure.

Not sure how the SR would sound with a 4 ohm load instead of a 2 ohm. I have to say I do like impedance mismatch in other Fender amps so it probably would sound very good. Years ago I bought a BFSR someone had put a different baffle with an 8 ohm JBL 15". I don't think a SR sounds very good at all at 8 ohms.

 

[slider313]

Not sure how the SR would sound with a 4 ohm load instead of a 2 ohm. I have to say I do like impedance mismatch in other Fender amps so it probably would sound very good. Years ago I bought a BFSR someone had put a different baffle with an 8 ohm JBL 15". I don't think a SR sounds very good at all at 8 ohms.

If the two 10" speakers in the cabinet are 4 ohms each, then it's running at 2 ohms. As for "one offs", I don't think they exist in the amp department. There have been transition amps, but in all my years I've yet to come across an original 2X10 Super Reverb or an original 1X12 Vibrolux Reverb. There was a 1X12 non reverb blackface Vibrolux produced in early '64. Sometimes amps that were changed back in the late 60's- early 70's were sold to unsuspecting buyers as original and they actually believe it came that way.

 

[slider313]

According to this time line: http://www.ampwares.com/ffg/

"The 2 x 10" Super is replaced by the 4 x 10" Super Reverb."

So perhaps a 2x10 Super did exist??

Here's a 2X10 Super from 1960

 

[slider313]

 

[Trotter]

Thanks Slide313... the owner says it a blackface and said he looked up the year online and found it was a 1963.

I'm really thinking this is a 63' Super in a non-original 2x10 cab.

With that theory in mind... what would be a fair price?

 

[Roger Robido]

I owned a 2 x 10 Fender Super. I don't think it was called a Super Reverb just Fender super. I bought it new in 1962 or 63. It was Brown and the grill was a gold/ yellow color. I have never heard of or seen another like it. I traded it for a Twin...since I was just starting to play back then I can't tell you much about the sound, only that it had two channels and the knobs were round with an single indicator line from the center to the edge of the knob which pointed at numbers in the metal backing plate. I think the knobs were on the front of the amp. Has anyone ever seen one of these?