2018 is near, do we still need 100-watters?

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  1. Wyzard

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    Google will generally point you to the lower half of a normally distributed population in any interest area, if you word your search term carefully. To paraphrase George Carlin: think of how good the average guitar owner is at setting up a Marshall, and realize half of them are worse than that.

    Ironically, though appropriately perhaps, it's a bell curve out there.
     
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    Ok, how about a demo from Marshall's very own Youtube channel? This is one of the thinnest, most shrill and fizzy tones Ive ever heard. Its complete garbage and this is Marshall's own main demo guy lol. I think he knows their amps.

     
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    More dynamic range? How so.

    My Orange amps have tons of low end, so I'm not buying that. I can (and have) put my Orange on 7 watts and set my 40 watter next to it and match the volume and you won't hear any difference. Crank up the 40 watter however and it definitely sounds bigger, but it does require turning it up considerably.

    At lower volumes, you're not even using the power tubes very much. That doesn't happen until you crank 'em up.
     
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    What are you listening through? The shrillness isn't the first thing I'd bring up with that video. The muddiness is more of a problem to me and judging by the position of the microphone, you're hearing a ton of proximity effect and because the mic is near enough in the centre of the speaker, you're getting tones of high-end fizz.

    But that is actually a faaaiirrllyyy reasonable demonstration of what a DSL sounds like.
     
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    Im listening thru the Bose Companion 5 hooked up to my computer. Oh, and Ive owned one of those amps, so I know firsthand how bad they sound. So you're telling me that Marshall and their main demo guy dont even know how to properly set up one of their own amps to sound the best and you expect the rest of us to? The amp sounds like ****, period. Everything after the JCM 800 sounds like fizzy garbage on the higher gain channels.
     
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    Well to be perfectly honest I don't really expect you to be able to do much past whinging on an internet forum!
     
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    "There's no replacement for displacement!"
     
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    Seriously, that guy has a weird ability to pick exactly the wrong riff to demo every amp.
     
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    Yeah I just got an AC30-H2 and am in love with the tone at the volume barely up on the amp in the house. I might be able to turn it up to 2 or 3 with the band. I mean this clean tone is something an AC15 could never produce, and I tried really hard to convince myself that it would. With that said, I do want to get a power station so I can get some glorious AC30 breakup when I want it, but that's not what my bands music calls for.
     
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    There are a couple of guys on YouTube who can make any amp they play through sound like a coffee can full of bees. He's one of them.
     
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    This thread reminds me of the bit about hunting season between Bugs and Daffy.
     
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    My answer Hell Yes!!

    Proud owner of a newly acquired Fender Custom Vibrasonic! Sounds amazing! A+
     
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    2018 IS NOW HERE

    YES, WE STILL NEED 100-WATTERS
     
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    Why would Marshall allow that on their own website/channel? Are they all tone deaf? They are not, its the amp. I owned one, they are awful and sound just like that. As I said, older Marshalls sound amazing but anything newer than the 800 sounds thin, fizzy and shrill on the gain channels. Friedman took over and made the amps Marshall should have been making the past 20 years.
     
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    You will not gain any respect from the people in this thread from your staunch contrarian attitude. No one is taking you seriously and you are having zero impact on Marshall sales. What, exactly, do you hope to achieve by being constantly disagreeable and unwilling to discuss things like a normal, sane person?

    You hate Marshall amps. Got it. We understand that. You made it perfectly clear many many posts ago.

    By the way, I win if you disagree with what I've just said.
     
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    Less compressed. The loud parts jump out a bit more. Slam the low strings on a low-wattage amp and you will hear breakup from the power section, even if the volume is set fairly low.
     
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    Or, they sound like this, which is not at all like that:



     
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    Still sounds terrible, especially in that second clip. What a thin, tinny and fizzy sound. Ive owned the amp and hated it. Others may like it but I think its terrible. The best part of owning this amp was taking this photo...

     
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    If I get a Marshall, I would get a Vintage Modern. And, in keeping with the spirit of this thread, I would get a 2466.

    What I really want, though, is a Matamp. Black, Orange or Green. I'm not picky.

     

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