24 3/4" scale on a Tele-style guitar - thoughts/opinions..?

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  1. erksin

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    Guys -

    I'm composing a guitar in my head right now and what I'm really after is a Gibson scale Tele w/3-barrel standard Tele bridge. My question to anyone who has one (or has played one):

    Can you still get great Tele honk/twang/bite with this scale length?

    My biggest concern is that it could sound flabby or mushy - I still want that nice big "BRRRANNNG" for chording. I use big strings (10-52) so this should help - but since I don't have the ability to play one myself before commiting, I'm seeking your advice...

    Thanks in advance!
     
  2. gitman

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    I built a Warmoth Tele with a conversion neck and it came out great. playability moved up 2 notches for me, tone is fat but still pure Tele. definitely a worthwile endeavor !
     
  3. Marty s Horne

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    I had a Hollow Cobra with a 24 3/4" scale and I did get Fender type tones but with the three mini-humbuckers and hollow cavities, not a real Tele twang.
     
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    i was going to say that my Anderson cobra (not hollow) did a great job of tele feel, but again, wrong pickups to get the twang.

    dave
     
  5. enharmonic

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    Methinks that the Tele Jr's had the shorter scale. Wicked guitars, those Tele Jr's.
     
  6. erksin

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    Thanks for the replies guys!

    Sounds like the consensus is that it should still sound like a Tele. I'm not going for 100% authenticity, just want the general vibe. I'm thinking that between the bridge/saddles and the pickup I should be fine.
     
  7. leoman57

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    That's all I play, warmoth conversion necks on tele and strat bodies. It changes the sound a lot. I have tried a lot of different pickups and woods and had a few regular fender scale necks too. It seems to bring the focus of the guitar pitch up like the difference between a violin and a viola. Like the difference between a guitar tuned to Eb and E. It's hard to describe until you play them side by side. For instance you can't really do SRV with a strat and a conversion neck, it just doesn't sound right, I tried. The guitar has more bite to it and less whine. It changes the whole voice of the guitar. I personally like the sound of the longer scale but because of my short fingers I have to play the 24 3/4" scale. I have trouble playing chords in the G position as it is, like a I-IV-V Chuck Berry progression. After about 48 bars my hand cramps up. Of course the arthritic joints don't help.
     
  8. analog orange

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    On a strat or tele, 24 3/4 necks always sound a bit chunkier with a smoother high end. It doesn't mean that it can't be bright, but I'm pretty sure it shifts the harmonic center of the guitar. Less brittle to my ears. I prefer them. i haven't seen that much difference in playability. With 12-52 strings the tone is not going to get flabby or tubby. Just not gonna happen.

    If you buy a conversion neck go through USA Custom. Tommy Rosamond is an incredibly generous man. See thread I just started.
     
  9. MVrider

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    Nope. 25.5" scale.

    The longer scale length is a big part of the Fender sound. And the Martin sound and the sound of the Gibson archtops such as L-5's, ES-5's, Super 400's. Les Pauls are a shorter (24.75") scale but most of Les Paul's classic recordings were made on "The Log" which had a 25.5" scale neck from an Epiphone, not the shorter scale length of the mass-produced instruments.

    Because of the greater mass of the string for a given string diameter and the higher tension required to achieve the same pitch, a longer scale is generally said to give more "piano-like" sound - richer bass, clearer trebles and better intonation on a fretted instrument.
     
  10. Bonedance

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    Another option....I had USACG make a tele neck with 25.5 scale, 21 fret, 12" radius, soft V profile and 6105 frets. It plays and bends so darn nice you would swear it's a Gibson scale neck.
     

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