24.75" conversion necks?!?

[jzucker]

I know Joey Goldstein and several others have tried these...

I have a strat that I'd love to convert over to a conversion neck.

Just wanted to see if folks had some opinions/suggestions...

 

[exhaust_49]

I put a warmoth 24.75 neck on my strat and I love it. It made the guitar a bit warmer and the highs aren't quite a piercing.

 

[jzucker]

Did you buy it pre-finished? How much was it total?

 

[Larry Wallwart]

the quack will change. you're effectively moving the pickups closer to the nut. There is a noticable difference in sound IMHO. The harmonic points are changed in relation to the pups.

 

[jzucker]

Originally posted by Larry Wallwart
the quack will change. you're effectively moving the pickups closer to the nut. There is a noticable difference in sound IMHO. The harmonic points are changed in relation to the pups.

Yes, I realize that.

 

[Larry Wallwart]

of course when you fret the string the harmonic point changes too.

 

[cnardone]

Trisonic has a shrot scale Strat from Bill Chapin that is a fantastic giutar. I've been dreaming about a short scale to warm up a strat for quick some time. I think it will also take away a little of the percusiveness and loosen the base a little.

 

[stark]

I have a bunch of these necks. While I like them and have some really nice ones, they just don't sound as good as 25.5 to me.

Adam Stark

 

[rwe333]

Jack - did you ask Joey?

 

[joegold]

Originally posted by Larry Wallwart
the quack will change. you're effectively moving the pickups closer to the nut. There is a noticable difference in sound IMHO. The harmonic points are changed in relation to the pups.

A little bit, yes. But the double octave octave harmonic node stayed right over my neck pickup's pole pives when I switched to my conversion neck.

Incidentaly, I had a lot of trouble getting a warmoth conversion neck to intonate properly on a kit Strat or an American Standard Strat. I got into a big argument with Ken Warmoth about this. Eventualy he exchanged it for a stock Strat neck. Lots of p[eople don't seem to have those problems with Warmoth's conversion necks. I guess I'm just jinxed.

But my USA Custom Guitars conversion neck works perfectly on my MIM Tele.

Plus, the USACG neck has the truss-rod adjustment nut at the headstock. Warmoth won't do that on their conversion necks.

 

[joegold]

Originally posted by Larry Wallwart
the quack will change. you're effectively moving the pickups closer to the nut. There is a noticable difference in sound IMHO. The harmonic points are changed in relation to the pups.

The main things I noticed sonicly were:
1. More mids. Less extreme bass and treble.
2. Overall "smaller" sound. I don't know how else to put it. the 25.5" scale just sounds a bit "bigger" or "fuller".

BTW I'm still using the conversion neck on my Tele. It's become very comfortable to play. Feels like home, at least for straight-ahead oriented jazz tones it does. For R&B or fusion stuff I'd rather use the longer scale neck.

 

[Jack K]

Plus, the USACG neck has the truss-rod adjustment nut at the headstock. Warmoth won't do that on their conversion necks.

Actually, Warmoth offers a conversion neck with an angled headstock which has the truss rod adjustment at the headstock. I've been wanting to try a conversion neck for a while. The angled headstock just adds another variable to the mix.

 

[brandie_witch]

i <3 mine.

 

[trisonic]

Trisonic has a shrot scale Strat from Bill Chapin that is a fantastic giutar. I've been dreaming about a short scale to warm up a strat for quick some time. I think it will also take away a little of the percusiveness and loosen the base a little.

Chris,
My whole guitar is scaled down (including pick up spacing) so it's not quite the same as just bunging on a shorter scale neck (alone).

I find it easier on my old, tired hands too.

Best, Pete.

 

[Brain2Me2]

I would go for a 25" scale conversion instead. It is the in between one, in case you are worried about too much of a tone change. To me it sounds better. Warmoth doesn't make them but USA Custom Guitars does.

I have a 25" conversion neck from them, done to PRS Wide Fat Specs, and I must tell you it feels amazing, I also put an OEM Earvana nut, and recommend you do the same, it is the next best thing other than Buzz Feiten, and really makes a difference.

 

[Boomdoggy]

Chris,
My whole guitar is scaled down (including pick up spacing) so it's not quite the same as just bunging on a shorter scale neck (alone).

I find it easier on my old, tired hands too.

Best, Pete.

Trisonic,
I don't want to threadjack,but do you have a pic?That may be the exact guitar I will be looking for in the future.

 

[trisonic]

Boomdoggy,
Not sure how to do links (I'm pretty stupid on computers) go to Small Company Luthiers section and look for recent thread called "Which is best Chapin or Lentz?" there is a picture of my Chapin on the 8th page (with a load of other Chapins) it's the Fiesta Red/ Violin Curl Neck Strat type, it also has the "reversed" Bridge P'up.

best, Pete.

 

[Boomdoggy]

Thanks Trisonic.They look fantastic.I am looking to have a Strat style built.It will have a 24 3/4 neck and some other changes.The Chapin's look perfect for what I am looking for.

 

[Lucidology]

It's been a while since this thread was posted .... wonder if there's new versions of the conversion neck out there?

 

[djw]

Weird, I was just thinking about this today too.