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2x12 cab. for a hiwatt dr504

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs' started by silencer eleven, Jun 28, 2005.

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    silencer eleven

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    What would be a good 2x12 cab in your oppinion to use with a dr504. I have heard that you want to get high wattage speakers with these? Just looking for a great speaker cabinet that will work well with the amp? anybody have one, if so, what are you using? or anybody with similar amps. what cab are you using? I dunno if open or closeback will work better with this amp. there are a few cab's I can try, like a marshall 2 12 open back with rola black's, vox with blues, boogie big box, so I'll try those first. But i've been hearing lots about THD, germino, bogner, divided by 13. How are the celestion classic lead speakers? ok enough add and jumping around on subjects.

    let's hear the sarcastic remarks everyone's gonna give, come on I need a good laugh. that, and good info so lets hear them.

    evan
     
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    ROKY

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    I'll take a stab ..

    Most internet Hiwatt freaks continually state that "to hear
    how the amp was meant to sound, you have to plug into
    a Fane-loaded 4x12 "

    I don't own an original Fane 4x12, myself.

    I do have an early Biacrown Custom 50 and a late Hylight DR103.

    W/ the Biacrown 50 I'm plugging it into an early 70s Marshall 2x12 w/ Eminence Tonkers(closed back)

    It's a large cabinet at 39"Hx29"Wx12"D

    I've also ran it thru a TopHat Birch-ply open-backed2x12 with
    Vintage 30s and, also, Eminence Red Fangs-- also the Tonkers in
    that cab, before being transplanted to the Marshall cab.

    The amp sounded great thru everything I've put it thru; I love
    Hiwatts, there are a lot of fantastic tones available besides the
    Pete Townshend style power chords(nothing wrong w/that,though)

    Different speakers actually bring out some things you wouldn't
    expect from a Hiwatt.

    Anyway, don't know what your style of playing is, or guitar(s),
    but I don't think a DR504 is going to sound bad thru any quality
    cab/speaker configuration.
     
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    silencer eleven

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    thanks very much. yes, mostly I was wondering open or closed, but I guess through my own experimenting I will find out. anybody else got some oppinions?
    evan
     
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    ROKY

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    Well, I have to say that I personally don't have a preference
    for one or the other(open vs closed).

    The Hiwatt doesn't lose any of it's authority in an open back config.

    What is(are) your playing style(s) and guitar choice(s) ?

    That might help in people making some sort of recommendation .
     
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    Yup, a vintage Fane-loaded Hiwatt 4x12 would rule - but also now expensive and very heavy. New ones aren't the same - there's a real magic to the older Fanes.

    That said, it's hard to fault the THD 2x12 in most applications.

    Ed DeGenaro could suggest a good speaker match:

    ed at thdelectronics dot com

    And congrats - a DR504's the ****! ;)
     
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    Spentmusic

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    Hi Evan,

    I build 2 x 12 cabinets I call Hylight mated to Hiwatt amplifiers. Love HiWatt amps and always have. See picture below and please send me an email if you are interested in talking about them. - jeff@swansoncabinets.com

    I have plenty of pictures I can send you.

    Thanks,

    Jeff Swanson
    Swanson Cabinets
    www.dst-engineering.com
    www.swansoncabinets.com
     
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    talk about timing...

    ;)

    Jeff makes some of the nicest cabs around...
     
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    silencer eleven

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    Well my guitar is a fender american deluxe with fralin vintage hot's in it. But I'll be selling that guitar and buying a 73 tele deluxe. I've heard of swanson cab's. And yes i'll be sending you an email I won't be in the buying market for a month or so. But i have questions. The style I play, well the band i'm in, i need good rock chord tone. We sound like a mixture of u2, and depeche mode, But a little more just rock. you can hear samples at

    www.myspace.com/jupitermusic

    evan
     
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    +1 for Jeff's cabinets. I love mine.

    Don

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    silencer eleven

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    What type of speakers do you use in your hylight cab?
    its closed back right?
    evan
     
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    tonedaddy

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    If you go the custom cab route you might consider trying a couple of Harry Joyce/George Scholz speakers in it. My DR504 sounds excellent through the HJ 2x12 cab.
     
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    ROKY

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    Jeff Swanson's cab would be a perfect match . :AOK
     
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    silencer,

    yes, the cab is closed back. Mine has the reissue Fane speakers in it.

    Don
     
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    silencer eleven

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    How do you like the re-issue fane's? how do they compare to the old ones? I was unaware that harry joyce made speakers. i'll have to check them out as well.

    thanks

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    ROKY

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    You really might like the Eminence Tonkers with your Hiwatt,
    particularly for the styles of music that you're playing and guitar
    choice.

    They have some similiarities to the higher powered Fanes
    and really do my Hiwatts justice .

    Tele+Hiwatt+Tonkers = big, clear, present, tones .
     
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    tonedaddy

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    The speakers are still being made by the folks that developed them for Harry Joyce (George Scholz and Charles Bertonazzi) and distributed Harry Joyce amps here in the U.S. They continue to build amps/cabs in the Harry Joyce vein under the George Scholz name.

    Check these threads for more details:

    http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=85409

    (Info on both the Fane alnicos and Scholz/Joyce speakers):
    http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=79897
     
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    I used to have an early 70's DR504 and a early 80's Hiwatt 4x12 with 75w Fanes. The early 4x12s are more traditional(if you're looking for the classic hiwatt sound). The 80's Fane sounds different, warmer. When I sold my Hiwatt setup I got a HJ 50, and now I have also a GS/HJ 2x12. I love the way the HJ sounds through an early 70's Hiwatt cab with original 50w Fanes. However, I like the GS/HJ speakers better. For the sound I like, they work better.
    Anyway, if you plug your hiwatt through pretty much anything, it will sound great. I can't go wrong with any cab I've played my HJ through. Put it this way... Hiwatt through a marshall cab... the tone controls feel like they go from 0 - 10. Hiwatt through a hiwatt cabinet w/ Fanes, the tone controlls feel like they go from 1 - 20. Hiwatt through GS/HJ speakers, the tone controls feel like they go from 1 - 20, and bass control from 1 - 25!!!
    Just make sure you give the cabinet time enough to bbreak in the speakers... trust me, you'll hate the way new speaker sounds out of the box. A few months after, it ill sound like a different speaker. IMHO.
    Let us know when you get your cab.
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