2x12 cab - Horizontal or Vertical layout?

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  1. stratzrus

    stratzrus Philadelphia Jazz, Funk, and R&B Silver Supporting Member

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    Go vertical if the head will fit. The additional height will help with dispersion.

    Check out the clip below. The sound is killer and the look is just right. Half stack appearance but less weight and smaller footprint.

     
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  2. rauchman

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    Thanks everyone. So it begs the question, recommendations on a slanted vertical 2x12 with offset speakers?
     
  3. Ian

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    What do you guys think about Boogie cabs vs the more traditional cabs from Mojo?

    Thanks
     
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  4. TubeStack

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    I much prefer horizontal, tilted back a bit. I love my Mesa Recto 2x12 with the back wheels removed so it’s angled up. Also fits my Electra Dyne head nicely.
     
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  5. EmandoDave

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    I'll play.
    1. Rivera Beast Rig


    Swapped in 25w Greenbacks to replace the 70/80 and G12-T100 the ported, closed R212 had in it.

    2. Laney Cub Rig


    The Laney has a Jensen MOD 10-70 in the amp & MOD 12-50's loaded in the open-back cab. Yes, it could go horizontally, but I like it vertical.
     
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  6. Daves Not Here Man

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    This is close to my question. Anybody ever use a 2x12 horizontally, but on an amp stand tilted upward?
     
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  7. FbIsNotE

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    I abandoned the head on cab config. a while back. I spent the majority of my past using combos. I never liked having the amp controls back at the amp. Especially on cramped stages.

    When I decided to leave combos for head and cab config. I decided to take full advantage of the separation flexibility and use a head stand.

    This not only eliminates restrictions on cab orientation it also opened possibilities for cab selection. Specifically for me, a cab narrower than my head (when vertical).

    It may seem like this takes up more room but the cab vertical with the head on stand beside it has the same footprint as the cab horizontal. Basically that of a 4×12. Separated they are each the footprint of a 1x12.

    Practically speaking, being able to put the cab anywhere on the stage and having controls close to me overrides any downsides. Especially cosmetics.
     
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  8. d'djembe mutombo

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    A lot of people speaking truth in this thread. However, I think it really comes down to your application. For personal playing I'd get a horizontal. For band rehearsal, I think a vertical would suit better. For live, I think it's a personal preference.

    I personally thing vertical 2x12s are ugly, but they still do have a purpose.
     
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  10. rauchman

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    I place a 40w blackface open back 1x12 combo
    on a closed Mojotone mini slammin angled cabinet.
    Back covers divided into thirds that you may adjust.
    Alltone 1250 in amp and Celestion G12M-65 in ext cab.
    I'm a fan of the combination of open and closed cabs.
    Used to tour with a half stack and big iron combos.

    Fits on a R&Roller cart that I leave both on since
    I prefer the decoupling, and dispersion when lifted.
    I roll it back after shows, lock the wheels, done.
    Smaller bar gigs when we are on the floor; same.

    Everything is at the right height for my purposes
    throws very well, and extremely easy to transport.
    Raised combo sounds dimensional and the extra width
    of the punchy extended cab places it on a secure platform.

    I hope this post is relevant since it's not a 2x12 cabinet.
    I have a Marshall 2x12 stereo cab that I prefer horizontal.
     
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  12. KennyM

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    Timely topic for me. I’ve been rewiring pedalboards in the studio and testing some speaker combinations in an old Bassman cab I have. I’ve been listening to the cab vertically mainly because I’ve been flipping it wanting to mostly hear the top speaker choice. I flipped it horizontally today like I normally use it and the difference was huge. I’ve been sitting in a chair in front of the cab the whole time so it’s not because the cab is too low to the floor horizontally. Regardless of which speaker was on top, it just sounded much better vertically. You CAN teach an old dog new tricks.
     
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  13. Bluesful

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    I dig a vertical.


     
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  14. Spankyrigor

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    For me it depends on the amp. But in my experience a Horizontal cab has a nicer fuller low end (more Bass coupling?) than the same cab with it's short side on the floor.
    I played with this a while back: my Jim Root Terror sounded so muddy with an Avatar 212 placed on the floor, but placed vertically it tightened the low end right up.
    Conversely, my Kraken sounds so thin with the same cab used vertically; as expected it sounds fuller with the cab used horizontally.

    Edit: of course this applies only if we're talking about one cab model. If you're comparing different brands and models then all that goes out the window. Brand A's vertical may in many cases sound fuller than Brand B's horizontal and vice versa, not even considering other factors such as speaker complement, cab depth, material, construction etc.
     
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    Quoting myself. :)

    In addition, I like horizontal 2x12s because they’re not as attention-grabbing for soundmen and are a bit more stealth/discrete. Less likely to generate complaints about amp size/perceived volume. The Mesa vertical 2x12 has almost the same visual effect as a 4x12, size-wise.
     
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  17. El Phaco

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    Oversized diagonal. Big sound, great diffusion.

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  18. earthmud

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    Funny you mention that. At one gig I brought my JMJ30 vox head and my Petersen diagonal 2x12. The sound man thought it was a Marshall with a 4×12 until he looked at the back side.
     
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  19. Tidbit

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    I had MojoTone build me one for my Marshall SV-20
     
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  20. rauchman

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    Anyone have experience with the DV Mark 2x12's?

    These are loaded with their version of Neo speakers, about 25lbs.
     

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