2x12 speaker/cab options with 100 watt heads?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs' started by bjm007, Dec 25, 2005.

  1. bjm007

    bjm007 Member

    Messages:
    568
    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2004
    Location:
    Way out west...
    It's always been a trade-off for me between the sound of a great 2x12 cab and my love of 100 watt heads. Don't get me wrong, I've got at least one of my old 4x12 1960 Marshall cabs that I have kept around for what they do, but I kinda prefer 2x12 cab's because of the way they push air in both directions and get some cool resonances going on that the 4x12's have a harder time with in some applications. There are pleanty of times when I want to run a Marshall 100 watt head through a 2x12...

    It also seems that my favorite speakers are mainly the lower wattage Celestions (G12H30's, G12M's, Blues, etc) I've been playing for a long time (since the 60's) but I haven't found a speaker that sounds as good and still handles 50-60 watts per speaker to handle the power of the 100 watt head...

    I'm interested in what your favorite speaker alternatives are in a 2x12 cab that wouldn't blow up with my 100 watt heads?
     
  2. Tone_Terrific

    Tone_Terrific Member

    Messages:
    25,289
    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2004
    Location:
    Canada-GTA
    So, have you tried taking the back off a 4/12?
     
  3. bjm007

    bjm007 Member

    Messages:
    568
    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2004
    Location:
    Way out west...
    :eek: Been playin for almost 40 years and I've never tried that.....

    Maybe I'll give it a go just for grins
     
  4. 908SSP

    908SSP Supporting Member

    Messages:
    5,801
    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2004
    Location:
    Michigan
    Marshall is selling a special pair of 4x12s for their 45/100 handwired reissue. The top one has an open back the bottom a closed back. Both cabs are filled with 20 watt alnico speakers. Wow I would like to hear that.
     
  5. Mayflower

    Mayflower Supporting Member

    Messages:
    8,460
    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2004
    Try removing the 2 lower speakers in your 4-12.
    I did this for years for weight/volume reasons. Just make sure it has speakers that can handle 100 watts. I never exceeded 50 watts through the 2 greenbacks.
    I really didn't answer your question.... You wouldn't be pushing sound both ways.
    Maybe make a seperate back panel that is cut in half.
     
  6. aleclee

    aleclee TGP Tech Wrangler Staff Member

    Messages:
    11,271
    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2002
    Location:
    5868 ft above sea level
    I have Celestion Classic 80s in my favorite cab, a ported 2x12.
     
  7. wilder

    wilder Member

    Messages:
    769
    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2004
    Location:
    Denton, TX
    I'm sure you've tried them, but Vintage 30s are a reasonable compromise for me in the same application.

    Chris
     
  8. bjm007

    bjm007 Member

    Messages:
    568
    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2004
    Location:
    Way out west...
    Yeah, I'm slowly coming back around to V30's in certain applications - like this 2x12 thing....

    I swore I didn't like them after I went through my Bogner phase, but I'm actually coming back around...

    They "sing" pretty good actually... Nice controlled harmonic feedback without a lot of time for break in...

    Maybe I'll try 'em again [​IMG]
     
  9. Urkoman

    Urkoman Member

    Messages:
    399
    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2004
    Location:
    Madrid, Spain
    I like my mesa 3/4 back with celestion mc90S very much. Much more than my previous Bogner 2x12 with v30s. I think those C90s sound great.
     
  10. bjm007

    bjm007 Member

    Messages:
    568
    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2004
    Location:
    Way out west...
    Yeah, I would be interested to hear that one too......
     
  11. ccoker

    ccoker Supporting Member

    Messages:
    1,319
    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2005
    Location:
    Austin, TX
    the mesa c90s will do it
    I have a 2x12 with one of those and a weber alnico 50w silver bell

    it sounds fabulous, warm, fat, punchy
    2x12 is run vertical with a slit across the back in the middle
     
  12. muddy

    muddy Member

    Messages:
    5,719
    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2003
    Location:
    nyc
    as soon as my 2x12 buzzbomb cab (ported) shows, i'll be loading it up with 1 scumback g12h-75 (25W greenback) and a vintage (read english) g12s-50 (50W; thanx to scotty!). the head (which has yet to arrive) isn't a 100W (it's a jtm45/bloozbreaker inspired head from mick @ soultone), but i will report back nonetheless. it's kinda barkin' up the same tree your lookin' to accomplish.


    ml
     
  13. Roe

    Roe Member

    Messages:
    6,953
    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2005
    Location:
    tromsoe, norway
    try the 65w scumbag speakers (g12m or g12h)
     
  14. 908SSP

    908SSP Supporting Member

    Messages:
    5,801
    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2004
    Location:
    Michigan
    Scumbag or Southbay Amplification as they are now called use SA12M or SA12H designation not G12.... thats Celestion's designation.
     
  15. Roe

    Roe Member

    Messages:
    6,953
    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2005
    Location:
    tromsoe, norway
    yes, but it's a clone of g12m or g12h speakers
     
  16. keith_t4e

    keith_t4e Member

    Messages:
    1,395
    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2005
    Location:
    nc
    I'm torn between getting all Marshall so my backline will look the same or going with Avatar who will put anything from Halatones to Greenies to 30 watters.
     
  17. Boogs

    Boogs Member

    Messages:
    1,332
    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2004
    Location:
    Philadelphia, PA
    The Emi Wizards will hold up to a 100 watt head in a 2x12, and sound good doing it in my opinion.
     

Share This Page