2x12 Speakers for Very Cool & Unusual Amp Head: Advice Needed

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs' started by A.j., Jan 27, 2008.

  1. A.j.

    A.j. Member

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    I have a late '50s (perhaps early '60s) Mark Simpson/Masco ME-8 single-end tube amplifier. It was completely rebuilt a couple years ago by Dan Russell (Blitz Amps) as an 8 watt/8 ohm guitar amp.

    It's a beautiful piece, extremely compact with exposed tubes (it looks a bit like an Emery Super Baby) and quiet. I've played it through a '70s Marshall 4x12 at a local recording studio, and it sounds incredible - it pretty much nailed that 1970s Marshall sound, thick and creamy with tons of dynamics and control over pick articulation. Think Bon Scott-era AC/DC, and you'll get an idea of what it sounded like. It was also very, very loud - you could easily play a live concert with a full-on rock band using this amp.

    Although I loved the sound, I don't want to purchase a 4x12 (too large for my home space). As a compromise, I just purchased a LopoLine 2x12 cab (convertible - it's a closed cab with a removed back).

    But what speakers should I get? I'm tempted to get Greenbacks (or the Warehouse Speaker Green Berets). However, the Vintage 30s (or Warehouse Veterans) are also appealing - perhaps they would be more versatile (I would like to be able to get a decent clean sound, with the guitar volume at 50%). I'm also thinking about the Vintage's having more power capacity - enabling me to use higher powered amps with this cab at some future point. And yet - those Greenbacks seem so ideally matched, at least from I've read, for a low power amp.

    Guitars I own are a '71 Mustang, 53' ES-125, '65 MelodyMaker. I'll likely be getting a Casino (or something similiar) in the near future. I dig vintage sounds - think Neil Young, Jimmy Page, early-mid Pink Floyd, and even old blues tones (Muddy Water, etc.)

    So what to do? I have never bought guitar speakers before, so I have very little experience in this area. Would love to hear what you would do in this situation, even if you'd do something else.

    Aj
     
  2. dk123123dk

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    Why not one Green beret and one Veteran30?


    A popular mix is g12H30 and a v30.

    Also check into Eminence speakers. They have some British flavored speakers (Red Coat).

    The best thing to do would be to try as many speakers as you can, or search for reviews.

    Good luck!

    dk
     
  3. A.j.

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    Thanks for the reply.. The hardest part, of course, is finding a way to try out these speakers - I can't just bring my 2x12+head into a music store & start having at it with a screw driver!

    About using a Green + a Veteran: what would my maximum wattage limit be, assuming the Green is a 25w and the Veteran is a 60w? 85w? I'm guessing more like 50w? (And has anyone successfully tried mixing those two speakers before - I'm curious if that's a common recipe for 2x12s).

    Best,
    Aj
     
  4. dk123123dk

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    the most common mix in 2x12" cabs I've seen are:

    G12H30 + Vintage 30

    or

    Blue + G12H30

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    If you want some more wattage, check out the Eminence Legends, and Red Coat series.

    Best bet is to spend the money on some name brand or popular speakers. That way if you don't like them, or they are just not your thing, you should be able to get most of your money back for them on the used market.

    Another option is to search craigslist and used music stores for older cabs. Often times you will find some nice broken in English Celestions. These are preferred to the new Asian made speakers. Crate Blue Voodoo cabs had v-30's, older Marshall's, some Randall cabs. You can use two of the speakers, sell the others and the empty cab on ebay and get most of your money back.


    dk
     
  5. imguitardan

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    The Green with V30 would pull 50 watts. The (212) combo pulls double whatever the lower speaker wattage is. A V30 would likely over power a greenback (due to the smaller magnet/SPL of the Greenback). Vintage 30 & G12H have the same size magnet. I'm waiting for Warehouse Speakers to make a G12H.
     

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