5 sting bass tuned with high C

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  1. Clapton is God

    Clapton is God Supporting Member

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    Does anyone know of a company that sells a set of strings for a 5 string bass tuned E-A-D-G-C?? They all seem to want you to play a low B, but I want no part of that! GHS used to sell a set, but looks like not anymore. I guess I'll just have to buy a set of 6 strings and strangle a hobo with the useless low B. :NUTS

    Thanks in advance!
     
  2. Zilmo

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    Mmmmmmmmm. Low B.
     
  3. Bassomatic

    Bassomatic Silver Supporting Member

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    Get a guitar?

    j/k...

    Low B is where it's at - why u want no part o dat?
     
  4. ghoti

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    Just buy a six-string bass, and you have both low b and high c.

    or if you're determined to do EADGC, go to someplace like juststrings.com and order yourself a four-string set + one for the high string (look for "individual strings" and choose your gauge)
     
  5. 2 Loud 4 You

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    Apparently Elixer allows you to buy a 4 string set then buy a seperate B and or C to dictate your string set. According to their ad in Feb's Bass Player magazine. www.elixerstrings.com/bass

    I'm with Ghoti though, 6 is where it's at!
     
  6. tkozal

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    In my "Wanna be Steve Swallow" days, I would buy a 4 string set, and a single for the high C. You can also buy a 6 string set, and not use the B. Someone on talkbass said that just strings or someone like that does have a 5 string E-C set. But you obviously limit your choices. I would just buy a .30 or whatever size single.

    BTW, I use to play this in a Jazz Trio..blissfully one without a guitar player...my god what heaven! :D

    If you would like to have a serious discussion about 5 string E-C playing, you better PM me, based on the responses here so far...:rolleyes:
     
  7. Bryan R. Tyler

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    I tune my 5-string Elrick tuned E-C. Fodera and GHS both have high C five-string sets. You can also order separate high C strings from companies like DR to go with their standard four-string sets as mentioned. Fodera and DR are my favorite brands out there, so the choices ain't that bad ;) :D
     
  8. Clapton is God

    Clapton is God Supporting Member

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    I am a guitar player by nature, but appreciate the bass just as much. I have a MIM Jazz bass, that I have moded to look like a 60's Jazz. Also I picked up an OLP MM3 from MF when they were blowing them out for $150. The bass is pretty cheaply made, and the low B is almost useless on that guitar. The pickup does not.. well.. pick it up very well, and it is impossible to keep it in tune and intonate it. In an experiment I moved all the strings down one tuner, and attempted to put a .030 gauge guitar string on the last post. It was juuuust a little too short, but I managed to string it up (and tune to pitch) for a little while before it slipped out of the tuning post. I gotta tell you I LOVED the higher register ability on it. So that's my story. I looked on juststings (thanks to ghoti) and I intend to buy a single string. It's ridiculous that it's going to cost $12 for just one though! Thanks for all helpful comments.

    P.S.

    tkozal,

    I'd like to hear more about your high C days, if you're willing to share.
     
  9. Bassomatic

    Bassomatic Silver Supporting Member

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    Lighten up, T.

    Just a standard issue bassist joke.

    I'd certainly never dismiss any instrument or instrumental intent out of hand.
     
  10. tkozal

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    what ya think the smileys are for...geezzz....

    I studied jazz theory with the sax player Eric Kloss for several years, years ago. I got very good with jazz harmony, and started playing more chords, "triple stops" if you will. I listened to a lot of Steve Swallow. I worked up an entire little chord vocabulary, where I would play the roots. Most were 1-3-7 types of chords, few fifths. Got to the point where I could read through the real book, playing 3 and 4 note chords, comping, putting in passing chords etc...read melodies in treble clef. It really helped my overall musicianship. He could play a 4 bar improvised solo phrase, and I could repeat it back to him.

    I played with a keyboard player who was naturally left handed, and loved playing bass lines, which he was quite good at. He would love to do this behind my solos. We had a few duo gigs where we played in kind of that Bill Evans/Jim Hall Undercurrents mode. But with me on 5 string bass. Much fun. We would get really out at times. The Carla Bley duets with Steve Swallow were out at the time, and were also a major influence.

    No guitars. None. Occasionally a reed player. No guitar players, did I say that already? It was WONDERFUL!

    It is great to have that high C when you are trying to pick melodies and harmonies off of records, as the range is closer to the human voice.
     
  11. cameron

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    Interesting. My first thought was why a high-C, why not a high-B like the next string on a guitar? But on second though, the high C really makes just as much sense.

    But if you want to use the bass a bass as a melodic instrument, getting up into that next octave, why not just use a four string, and tune it in fifths? Like D A E B for example. Voicings-wise, it'd be like a really big mandolin . . .
     
  12. Bassomatic

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    Now *there's* a darned good reason for a high C. It's sadly just double and triple stops for me.
     
  13. tkozal

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    The high C allows for full fourth tuning patterns, you can play the same forms all over.
    The next level was to actually get a set of piccollo strings, tuned the same as the low 4 strings of the guitar, or maybe a whole step lower.


    - - 16 - - - - - -
    - - 14 - - - - - -
    - - 12 - - - - - -
    - - 13 - - - - - -
    - - - - - - - - -

    I would do stuff like this, that is the opening chord of "Blue in Green", a BbM7 with a raised 4th. Some day I will tab the whole work out of that I did with 3 and 4 note chords.
     
  14. TimmyP

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    A so-called B-D set, tuned E-C, will likely sound better, have better sustain, and have less fret rattle, owing to the increased string tension. Just use a standard set and crank 'em up.
     
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    Umm,, no, I don't think so, that is wrong in sooo many ways....
     
  16. Bryan R. Tyler

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    Are you talking about taking a B-G set and tuning it up to E-C? If you're looking to break the strings and probably massively screw up your neck, then that's a GREAT idea. Otherwise, I wouldn't even PRETEND to try that, on even a graphite neck.
     
  17. Clapton is God

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    bbocaner,

    You're my hero!! Thanks man.
     
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    Reading this thread just converted me to the high C on my 5ver...thanks boys! Now to find the right set...most important for me is I need a .110 for the E
     
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    Don't try this at home, kids!
     

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