60s Fender Blonde Bassmans

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  1. bennintexas

    bennintexas Member

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    I'm interested in them, significant difference from other bassmans? I'm looking for a good clean amp that can get pretty hairy, and I know bassmans can fit the bill. Any opinions would be appreciated.


    I have a Dr. Z Maz Jr 2x10, breaks up too early and is a bit too bright.

    Price-wise what would they run now-a-days?

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  2. ROKY

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    Heads are still pretty affordable; nicest examples averaging around $1000, but
    player condition amps can be had usually in the $7-800 zone; sometimes abit cheaper
    and they usually require a cap job.

    I have a '62 that I got a couple of years ago that was already recapped for $800 .

    LOVE. THAT. AMP .
     
  3. Griz

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    I've got a '62. It's a great sounding amp. My favorite Fender design.

    It's not the king of clean, though. Without adjustments (I imagine a lot can be done via simple preamp tube substitutions), you're looking at edging into the grind zone anywhere above volume settings of about 3 or 4.

    Prices seem to vary a lot depending on how fully original the amp is, which circuit it is, what it looks like; the usual factors. If you're not put off by a heavily gigged appearance, you ought to be able to snag a head for maybe $700 or so.

    Here's a link to a discussion over at TDPRI:
    http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/131623-fair-value-blonde-bassman-head.html

    Best of luck in your search. You won't regret going home with a blonde.
    :D
     
  4. ROKY

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    With a 12at7 in the phase inverter slot, a single coil guitar, thru some efficient
    speakers, there plenty of headroom and it's a loud amp.

    I run mine thru a pair of Celestion Golds or a single EV12L and it's crackin !!!
     
  5. sickboy79

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    I've got a couple myself. Blonde and BF Bassman heads are my favorite amps of all time. Tone wise - they'll get exactly what you want.

    Price - $800-$1100 seems to be the rate these days - depending on the condition.
     
  6. bennintexas

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    wow a lot of great info, thanks guys. i keep seeing these go for a pretty penny on ebay (2500ish)

    what am i doing wrong?

    like the tone in this video.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgnOfzPCvz0

    what makes these different from other 60s blackfaces?

    is there anything else less "difficult" to find that would match the tone?
     
  7. riffmeister

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    BF doesn't have a presence control and does have bright switches. There are some other circuit differences, too.
     
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    I got to tune up a friend of mines that is in incredibly great shape.
    Something about that circuit just sounds incredible, I need to build one someday.
     
  9. bennintexas

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    bassmans are confusing!
     
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    riffmeister Gold Supporting Member

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    Not really, here's the chronology:

    Tweed (4x10 combo)
    Blonde (2x12 head/cab)
    Blackface (2x12 head/cab)
    Silverface (2x12 head/cab)
     
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    My blonde '63 is a Brownface 6G6-B with the flat logo. The '62 6G6-A has a tube rectifier which is actually less desireable. You can find the same Brownface circuit on some of the earlier '64 models that are black tolex for pretty cheap. I run 7025's in the preamp positions and Jan Phillips 6L6WGB's for power biased at about 30. She growls at 5......
     
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    I thought it was only 1961 with the tube rectifier, one year only. I have one of those and a later blonde Bassman. My 1961 has the 1x12 tone ring cab, also one year only. I don't know about being less desirable but they are more valuable. The later one has two 12" Jensen Vibrantos. Tonally they are both very similar, after allowing for speaker differences. To me, they both do the Brian Setzer sound.
    If you want more clean with any Fender you have to use lower gain preamp tubes. Otherwise, they'll all start to brak up after 3, depending on the output of the guitar pickups.
     
  13. ROKY

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    6G6 circuit has the tube rectifier

    6G6-A and B are solid state recto's

    6G6-A has slightly higher preamp voltages yielding a bit more headroom before clipping.
     
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    if I remember correctly the tube rectifier model was made for less than 1 year in 1961,then ss rectifier model-mine is a very early '62 and it has a ss rectifier
     
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    the 6g6b has a great bass channel which gives some gritty guitar tones. the guitar channel is closer to blackface amps
     
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    That's true about the Bass channel; definitely a bit more aggressive.:agree
     
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    Very true. The 6G6-A also has higher plate voltages on the 6L6s than the B version. 470 vs 420 - which also accounts for the differences. The B also has quite a bit more gain available in the Bass channel than the A version does. Both are down right nasty - but, the B version is a touch nastier!
     
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    From the Youtube notes = "This is a classic clean Tele sound through a 1960 Tweed Bassman and a 1964 Super Reverb."
     
  19. bennintexas

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    wrong link

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzJDw2AV_2g

    he doesnt start playing till quite late though:crazy
     
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    I would love to have a Blonde Bassman. You really can't go too far wrong with any of the Brown/Blonde era Fenders of the early 60's.
     

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