6100 versus 6105 Frets - which is easier to bend on?

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  1. DanielT2

    DanielT2 Member

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    I'm about to order a strat neck but am undecided about fret size. Can I get some opinions as to what makes for easiest bending:

    6100 = .110" Wide x .057" High
    6105 = .090" Wide x .055" High

    (Fret specs taken from USACG)

    Does the added width of the 6100's help with bending?

    Thanks!

    :munch
     
  2. Lucidology

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    Well IMHO ... I think 6100's makes bending easier, yes...
    however, maybe "more fun" would be a more accurate way to describe it...:)
     
  3. Flyin' Brian

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    Joseph does that Melancon have 6100s on it?
     
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  5. Ascension

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    Have guitars with both and prefer the 6100's big time!!
     
  6. DanielT2

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    Could you clarify please - as in easier to play hence more enjoyable?
     
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    Care to say why? Thanks.
     
  8. stark

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    They really sound different. If you are after a vintage tone go for the 6105's. If you are into higher gain and shred a bit, go for the 6100's. The more fret you have the less wood you are going to hear. 6105's give me wood right now!

    Adam Stark
     
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  9. walterw

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    the width is irrelevant for bending. it's the height that matters. the width (if they're crowned right) makes sliding feel smoother and less like railroad ties.

    the argument for tall & skinny wire is that it keeps a vintage look, and may produce a "sharper" or "clearer" tone due to a finer contact point on the string.
     
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  10. althrax

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    6105 is my favorite!
     
  11. jazzandmetal?

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    Would a wider fret be better if you are prone to fretting hard as apposed to a tall skinny one?
     
  12. DanielT2

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    Walter is it possible that wider fret wire actually makes bending harder due to increased friction between string and fret?
     
  13. walterw

    walterw Gold Supporting Member

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    hey, man.

    i don't think so. squeezing too hard with tall frets will make the notes go sharp regardless of the fret's width.
     
  14. walterw

    walterw Gold Supporting Member

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    if it's worn or poorly crowned, so that the string contacts a flattened fret top rather than just the very center like it should, then maybe.

    remember, with properly shaped frets, the string doesn't touch more than the very center no matter how wide the fret is.
     
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  15. Ayrton

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    I like narrow and tall...

    Stainless steel 6105s for me please.
     
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    You're talking about a few thousandths of an inch. With your eyes closed I seriously doubt you'd know the difference between the two -- as far as playing is concerned.
     
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  17. Freedom

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    I've got 2 strats, one with 6100 frets (9.5" radius) and one with 6105 frets installed (12" radius) both maple neck and both nitro finished...

    Bend-wise both are great and i can feel no difference between these two (as long as the frets are equaly worn/good polished on both guitars otherwise its not a fair comparison anyway) BUT...there is noticable a difference when you slide your fingers through the fretboard...6105 just dont seem right to me, its like my fingers getting stuck during a slide while 6100 feels very natural...maybe this is cause 6100 might be a little taller than 6105 (by 0.002") but its also a "lot" wider (by 0.02") so the fret radius is greater (less steep if you like) and feels smoother...

    Anyway, like i said, bend-wise i can't find any differences between these two...
     
  18. buffbiff21

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    I have 6000 fretwire (.118" x .058") on all my parts Strats. The bigger the fret, the better. Especially for vibrato. It's easier to dig into the string without being impeded by the fretboard wood itself, and that allows for easier legato, tapping, sweeps, and vibrato. It's kinda like they teach you in boxing: punch through the target. W/ big frets you can punch through the string. Just be careful on your fret hand heaviness; big frets are better suited to players with a light touch.

    Scalloping is the ultimate though. Just ask Yngwie.
     
  19. Eagle1

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    real 6100 and 6105 are both .055
    It's just a lot of company's use a .047 and still call it 6105.
     
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  20. Dave Orban

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    I'll take 6105s over any other fret. In fact, all my guitars -- including vintage pieces -- either came with or were refretted with 6105s.
     
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