6L6 and Humbuckers? Bad Combination

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  1. recordmusic

    recordmusic Member

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    Is this an unusual combination for someone who wants to play warm overdrive tones?

    Any major artists use say a Les Paul and a Fender amp?

    It seems (in general terms) that people play

    single coil/6L6 for clean to mild overdrive
    Humbucker/EL34/84 for warm overdrive to classic distortion
    Humbucker/6L6 for some high gain applications
     
  2. riffmeister

    riffmeister Gold Supporting Member

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    My Les Paul thru cranked '67 Bassman is the Cat's Meow.
     
  3. Doodad

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    Maybe in rock, but not in country. I have a matched set 73 tele deluxe and Peavy Classic 100 that was bought by my friend for country music. Sounds good to me. Very warm and rich you are right. The tele really loves EL84s I have found, but the 6L6 is very nice and harmonic. Big sound.
     
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    Les Paul into a cranked Deluxe Reverb is a great combo.
     
  5. John55

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    I don't like any black face 6L6 amp that is pushed into much more than a light crunch tone by humbuckers. To my ears the tone just gets too harsh and brittle. Derek Trucks uses Super reverbs and while he is a great player, I can't find much good to say about his tone on most of what I've heard.
     
  6. mkg

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    This little pair does okay.
    :AOK

    p.s. It helps to plug into input #2 of either channel and to be driving those buckers through a pair of old Jensen C10Ns.
     
  7. Catfish

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    Blackface Fenders are. Blackface Fenders have scooped mids and were made NOT to overdrive. Remember, these amps were made by Leo in reaction to the fact that Tweeds got too raunchy. Leo's reference points were country players and an aspiration to jazz - not blues! The Tweed tones everyone loves were nothing more than an unintended accident. Leo "corrected" the problem finally with the Blackfaces - which sound great for country and jazz, but generally don't overdrive well.

    6L6s/5881s sound awesome with humbuckers in tweed/early Marshall-inspired amps.
     
  8. Benny

    Benny Gold Supporting Member

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    There is exactly nothing wrong with Humbuckers into a 6L6 powered amp.
    A Les Paul or 335 into a tweed Bassman can be as warm and as big as you want, and Derek Trucks seems to do just fine with an SG into a super reverb.
     
  9. wgs1230

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    Peter Green recorded & toured the States with the original Mac using Twin Reverbs.

    Mike Bloomfield used a Les Paul, Twins and Super Reverbs during the Electric Flag and "Super Session" periods.

    Jerry Garcia used an SG with TRs 68-70. (In general, a more overdriven sound than what he was known for later on.)

    There's Gibson/Twin Reverb on several cuts from "Sticky Fingers."

    (There are a handful of simple changes which can make, say, the average Bassman head much more rock-friendly. Also, speakers play a huge part- run an unmodded Bassman or Showman into some choice Celestions and it instantly produces a warmer overdrive.)
     
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    I just finished my first jam with my "new" 100% original 69 Vibrolux Reverb and I was getting a wonderful warm natural overdrive. Heaven.
     
  11. RussB

    RussB low rent hobbyist Silver Supporting Member

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    It's like saying peanut butter and jelly are a bad combination! :BluesBros
     
  12. brad347

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    i do know what you're sayin... try a 5751 in V1 (or V2) of that BF fender amp and it can tame the harshness of the humbucker/BF amp combo.
     
  13. michael patrick

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    I run 6L6s in my JTM45 clone, and it loves humbuckers. I think it depends a whole lot on the circuit as to how a given set of power tubes will sound...
     
  14. Jack Briggs

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    I think his tone is STELLAR. Diff'rent strokes.........:cool:
     
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    Absolutely! That's why there's chocolate and vanilla. I love 6L6s in a tweed amp when they are being pushed.
     
  17. r9player

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    +1000 we don't all like the same sound. Personally I like my sound a little brighter and a friend of mine likes the thumping driving bassy sound.
    So given 1. Near unlimited combinations of settings on an amp plus many types of tubes (and manufacturers) as well as types of Hum pu's you are bound to find tones you like and tones you hate.
     
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    I some people put too much credence in tube selection. The circuitry, output transformer & speaker have more bearing on tone than the style of output tube.
     
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    I love a Les Paul through 6L6es. I had a Bandmaster and now have an Allen Old Flame head. You just need to tame the bass a little more than with a Strat.
     
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    Very true.
     

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