'90s USA Lone Star Strat -- humbucker change from PG+ to Seth Lover?

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  1. stilesg57

    stilesg57 Member

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    Hi all,

    I've got a great '97 Lone Star (Lonestar ?) Strat that I've had since '06 and I generally love the thing. I've swore for a long time that I wouldn't change anything on this guitar.

    However, I've finally grown tired of the biting ice-picky highs of the Pearly Gates Plus humbucker in the bridge. Rolling the tone control back just doesn't change the sound the way I want it to, and it affects too many other aspects of the tonal palette. Frustrating. The output difference is annoying too when switching around.

    For just a quick plug 'n play change, what do you guys think of the Seth Lover trembucker like this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Seymour-Duncan-TB-55-Seth-Lover-Bridge-Trembucker-White-/400275568057?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item5d324875b9

    I've never heard a Seth in a Strat -- or heard of anyone else using one, to be honest -- but I LOVE that bucker in any classic double-bucker style guitar. I think the more subdued underwound PAF sound will match my style and tone goals better, and the output might even out a little better with the Texas Special singles in the middle and neck. Plus, I like the idea of a double-white bucker to match the looks and fly below the radar a bit.

    What do you guys think? Anyone done this before?

    One more quick question: I've never changed buckers in a Strat before -- is the trembucker spacing OK for the Lonestar fit-wise? I'm not interested in routing the body or cutting the pickguard if it's made just to fit a normal-spacing bucker (it's got that sweet yellow aging thing going on and I don't want to do anything irreversible to it).

    Thoughts?

    Thanks in advance all.
     
  2. mikey

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    I don't have experience with Seths but I think it would tame the highs a bit. I have Dimarzio PAFs in the bridges of my Strats. I have replaced the PG+ in one of them and it took a little sting out of it. As far as output it's usually a bit of a compromise, singles and 'buckers don't always play well together. I've gotten usable results experimenting with pickup height and tweaking my guitar volume on the fly.

    As far as sizing I don't think the bobbins are any larger on the trembuckers, I believe just the pole spacing is a bit wider. ...Not certain about that, I use standard spaced PUs without issue.
     
  3. stilesg57

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    Good to hear that the DiMarzio PAFs took some of the PG+ sting out. I haven't heard that set in person, but from what I can tell the Seths are even lower output. This bodes well.

    Also good to hear that I'm not the only one who thinks the PG+ is harsh in a Strat bridge ;) I know some people love it -- maybe it's my amp setup -- but I've always though it was too sharp & biting.

    Thanks for the clarification on the trembuckers, I've never used buckers in a Strat before and these white, coverless Seths only come in trembucker spacing. Good to hear that the bobbin size is the same (so I know they'll fit mod-free).





    So, anybody out there used or heard a Seth Lover in the bridge of a Strat? There's gotta be somebody, Duncan is selling them afterall...
     
  4. RCM78

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    Dont discount the regular Pearly Gates. Way different then the +.
     
  5. stilesg57

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    Different enough to justify spending ~$80 on one considering I don't like the PG+?
     
  6. pall_5

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    Have you tried lowering the PG+? I had to lower mine considerably (compared to standard Fender specs for a humbucker) to get it to balance properly with the TS singles and remove the 'ice-pick' treble I was getting.
     
  7. Kiwi

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    Yes, give this a try as a last resort. I used to deck the PG+ level with the body wood to get the volumes even and the brightness gone.

    =K
     

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