A better guitar jack?

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  1. Tone_Terrific

    Tone_Terrific Supporting Member

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    Standard jacks do have basic design faults that those pure tone are addressing.
    Normal jacks skew the shaft, offer tiny contact points, and the grounding point does not self clean, prone to oxidation.
     
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  2. TonePilot

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    Yup
     
  3. eriwebnerr

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    Thought the same thing - I can from the "Trending" page so I thought it was going to be a thread about an amp's input :p
     
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  4. jvin248

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    There are a lot of 'switchcraft'-like jacks, many use thinner metal for the tip connection that bends easy. Seems like Switchcraft stamps their logo on the ones I buy and they are a lot more rugged.

    Barrel type used on Ibanez and some others are ok.

    The 4-point contact jack looks cool, but you may just have four tabs that can bend rather than just one.

    "While you have it open" -- change the two-wires to the jack with a shielded cable. Odd why Fender still uses separate wires when even $80 Epiphones use shielded cable to the jack to cut noise -- and it's not like guitar players use unshielded cable from the guitar jack to the amp.

    Strat ... flip the jack cup over to make it an 'outie'.

    Don't use 'red' locktite, make sure you are using 'blue' or you'll destroy the parts getting them apart later.

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  5. bigtone23

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    The classic Switchcraft J11 is still the defacto standard for output jacks on a guitar.
     
  6. FLYING V 83

    FLYING V 83 Gibson Geezer Silver Supporting Member

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    When you grab a guitar cable do you plug it out of your guitar and amp?
     
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    I adopt signal flow logic vs mechanical action and semantics. The jack on the guitar sends signal out to the amp's input jack.
     
  8. Tiny Montgomery

    Tiny Montgomery Supporting Member

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    Input.

    The term refers to the signal flow, not the physical act of connecting it.

    Are you confused by pedals that are marked “in” and “out?” Do you just stare at them saying “hurr durr how do I plug it out?”
     
  9. FLYING V 83

    FLYING V 83 Gibson Geezer Silver Supporting Member

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    Obviously humor doesn't come across without the appropriate smiley attached.
    Insults are quite obvious though :rolleyes:
     
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    But the electron flow is in to the guitar :) Sorry, being a physics nerd, I couldn't help myself :).
     
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  12. TonePilot

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    Yeah sorry. I never know what to call it. It’s an output for the amp but an input for the cable lol.
     
  13. TonePilot

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    I replaced the jack temporarily with a Switchcraft one I picked up earlier today. The Pure Tone’s won’t be in until next week and I have a gig on Saturday. Good tip wrt the shielded cable. I’ll do that when the other jacks come in.
     
  14. TVvoodoo

    TVvoodoo Mad Strappier

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    Probably not the first to think of this, but holy **** it works well

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  15. Mr Fingers

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    Assuming the materials are robust as they appear to be, the Pure Tones jack is clearly an improvement on Switchcraft. Though I have used Switchcraft jacks forever and they have performed far better than others, the contacts sometimes do get bent or pushed out of shape and lose grip/continuity. That looks less possible on the Pure Tones, assuming the contacts are made of steel that will not fatigue or deform.
     
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    Have you tried it? That does not strike me as a good location for that type of jack as it puts the cable too close to a control.
    Locating jacks on the edge of the body works better, looks better.
     
  17. TVvoodoo

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    The guitar pictured is my own. The front jack was ripped out of the wood by previous user, this is how I covered the hole.

    It works great, mind you, I dont muck with tone controls much. But how the cable naturally goes to loop inside your strap is perfect placement.
     
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  18. Tone_Terrific

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    Yes, there are other designs that place the jack in a good cable feed position, too, maybe a little more elegantly.:D
    It has not really caught on..but you know how guitar players are.o_O
     
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    Switchcraft started making them too.
     
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    Switchcraft's current quality is not quite the same as the old USA made ones. Still, I can't say there are many other great ones either.
     
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