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A noiseless SC poll/thread

Discussion in 'Guitars in General' started by DrDespair, Dec 20, 2005.

  1. DrDespair

    DrDespair Member

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    Hi everybody.

    I would be very curious of all of your opinions about everything that

    fits in a SC Equipped guitar / Strat
    doesn´t hum.
    IS A PICKUP…

    I give it a start:

    Fender noiseless (cobalt): no hum, plenty of cut, somtime a little thin
    Seymour Vintage rails. not really SC-like. no hum. Lame.
    Seymour Quarterpounder: Loud fat, hum reduced (strong magnets, less Windings = less hum)

    I´m personlly interested in
    All Lace sensors (to many options), esp. Chrome Domes
    Dimarzio virtual vintage
    Bill Lawrence´s creations
    Lace ALUMITONES!

    come on, tell us all you know
    DrDespair
     
  2. Tone_Terrific

    Tone_Terrific Member

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    Bet you have not tried Evans!
    Very low noise, low pull, smoothed off top end- "polite" tone.

    Or Reflex Reds- active, versatile but slightly unfocussed, low noise but hissy- out of production.


    Lace- Golds or Hot Golds- should be on your must try list!
     
  3. DonW

    DonW Velocity Town Angel Silver Supporting Member

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    After trying many, Kinman. Hands down the best noiseless with the most punch, snark and rolled off smooth I've ever used. Pickup makers have it down to a fine art. Many good choices out there.
     
  4. HarryJ

    HarryJ Member

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    Some clips of Dimarzio Virtual Vintage pups

    Neck pickup is DP 410
    Middle is DP407 (reverse wound)
    Bridge is DP404

    These are NOT the most standard "strat" like choices in the VV line.

    The bridge is more of a P-90 meets strat on steroids, which I LOVE!

    The neck is a warmer tone than a standard strat single.
    I switch to the 401 for more of the standard strat tone at times.
    Warmoth Strat
    http://www.harryj.net/strat_body.JP


    Audio clip into a cranked Sonic Cord class A amp
    http://www.harryj.net/strat%20sonic%20wet.mp3


    5 Tones
    OD tones
    Neck, Neck/Middle, Neck/Bridge, Bridge/Middle, Bridge


    6 Tones
    Clean tones
    Bridge, Bridge/Middle, Bridge/Neck, Neck/Middle,Neck, All (All combo's in parallel)

    I don't know if you are into wild pickup wiring schemes like I am. If you are, you may want to check out the wiring maps and diagrams that I posted to the "gear" page of my site. Most of them were created by my bud and resident wiring guru Carlos Lorenzo.

    Here is a clip showing the parallel combo tones followed by series for 8 very cool 11 tones available.
    Combo's
    All 3, Bridge/Middle , Bridge/Neck, Neck/Middle


    All the clips for this guitar are here: http://www.harryj.net/strat_VV.htm


    Here are the wiring and mapping diagrams:

    Harry Jacobson
    www.harryj.net
     
  5. HarryJ

    HarryJ Member

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    I previously had the Kinman Woodstocks in that guitar. They were very cool, but far less strat like. Much more pronounced mids.
    Cool if thats what 'yer after

    HJ
     
  6. TwinandTwang

    TwinandTwang Member

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  7. jzucker

    jzucker Supporting Member

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    Barden's out of business. Unless you want to pay $500+ on ebay for a set.

    I just installed a set of Dimarzio VV pickups in my SRV strat. VV 2.1 in the neck and middle and Virtual 2 neck in the bridge. They sound amazing. Plenty of twang and they get the jimi tone on the neck pickup and you get all the vintage SRV twangyness in all positions. I couldn't be happier.

    I have an american deluxe strat with the SCN pickups but the dimarzio's are a notch better in terms of sound quality and vintage vibe.

    I'll probably put a set in my american deluxe strat as well.
     
  8. pbradt

    pbradt Senior Member

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    My opinion of pickups that don't hum...hmmm...let me think?

    Uhh, well, gee, I don't know if I can say anything.

    [​IMG]

    I think this sums up how I feel about noiseless pickups.
     
  9. rwe333

    rwe333 Supporting Member

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    Another vote for DiMarzio here - great customer service, lots of choices to really fine tune what you need, very supportive of artists 'in the field'...

    Had a set of VirtuAL 2s in for quite a while - great, round tone (bit towards a P90 vibe). Have recently switched to 2.1 in neck/middle w/ a 2.2 in bridge for a bit more traditional Strat vibe - again very pleased.

    With all due respect, Kinman have certainly borrowed some of DiMarzio's design concepts...
     
  10. rwe333

    rwe333 Supporting Member

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    Positive as usual, I see... ;)
     
  11. Leonc

    Leonc Wild Gear Hearder Gold Supporting Member

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    I don't know much about the others though I've played guitars with the Lawrences and Lace picukps in them. They were okay but I'm a fan of the Kinmans, myself. They were very impressive and Chris is absolutely a great guy to deal with. Clip of my strat when it had Kinmans in it.
     
  12. The_Whale

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    I have a Lace Transensor in the middle position in a Jap Strat. It sounds good, I wouldn't mind having a strat with three of them. It doesns't sound "vintage": sort of between a single coil and a humbucker.

    It has about the same output as the stock pickups, but is a bit unbalanced: you need to really bring the pickup close the high E string.
     
  13. Overdriver

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    The Lace Holy Grails are the ones for me. Not brittle or harsh. The HG-1000 is like a great classic Strat pickup and the HG-1500 is more like a great P90 without, of course, the noise.
     
  14. Clorenzo

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    I don't know if you're interested in humbucker-voiced ones as well, but here's my 0.02:

    - DiMarzio Pro Track: Probably the most versatile pu there is. Series: Warm, mid-output humbucker tone. Parallel: Not exactly sc tone but very close and noiseless. Split: Very convincing in-between tones.

    - SD JB Jr: It does what it says on the tin, JB tone in sc size, so the usual JB caveats apply (you may love it or hate it, great overdriven but pretty useless clean, works better with 250k pots, especially with bright sounding woods).
     
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    Regarding Carlos' recommendation of the Dimarzio Pro Tracks. I have to agree.

    In terms of versility, they are my #1 favorite. The series tone comes very close to the richness of a side by side PAF tone. The parallel has far more sparkle and definition, and the split gets a great single tone, with the pronounced attack transient, albeit with the hum.

    The V.V.'s get closer to the strat single vibe than the P.T's

    Another of my favorites is the Cruiser. Not as versitile as the P.T, but it has the absolute coolest P-90esque vibe to it.

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    Some Clips of my chambered ash strat with P.T's
    http://www.harryj.net/blue_strat_grain.jpg

    Here is a clip with the Pro Track in parallel mode:
    http://www.harryj.net/tele_blues.mp3

    The first and last sections of this track are P.T's in parallel
    http://www.harryj.net/beckish.mp3

    Same strat with P.T's in series
    http://www.harryj.net/wank2.mp3

    Here is a live cut using my chambered blue strat with the P.T's in series
    http://www.harryj.net/Breakfast_Blues.mp3

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    Godin Tele with a cruiser and protrack side-by-side at neck position
    http://www.harryj.net/multibucker.jpg

    Cruiser
    http://www.harryj.net/neckcruiser.mp3

    P.T
    http://www.harryj.net/neckprotrack.mp3

    OD neck
    Cruiser, Split, Protrack, Both in Series
    Neck

    Harry Jacobson
    www.harryj.net
     
  17. r9player

    r9player Silver Supporting Member

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    +1 on Kinman's really awesome noiseless pick ups
    These pick ups have a really nice vibe to them.
    The other pick ups I like are Langcaster pick ups. www.langcaster.com
    These are just pristine crystalline sounding pick ups.
    The Kinman's are nice because they don't need any batteries or or have a circuit board. The Langcaster (also due to build in OD effect) has a small circuit board and needs a 9V, but it is worth it, he makes drop in harnesses now and besides removing 1 trem spring I didn't need to make any adjustments.
     
  18. tone4days

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    seymour duncan is about to release the classic stack plus for strats ... very incredible tone (i've heard prototypes) and no noise .. i think there are going to be two versions, one traditional and one a little beefier ...

    should be on the street in just a few weeks (if they arent already) and will also be stock in a nuno bettencourt sign model (washburn?)

    t4d
     
  19. Leucadian

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    I bought a used Suhr Classic that the original owner had retro-fitted with Kinman's...they were very quiet but didn't sound like single coils to my ears. Then when I heard Suhr was offering the Silent Single Coil System...

    The SSC will be available on non-Suhr strats soon...these are real single coils with no hum...pretty amazing:)
     
  20. HarryJ

    HarryJ Member

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    The Suhr system looks similar to something I saw on the net a while ago... can't remember where.

    It should be very cool, although will require alterations to the guitar if I understand correctly... I suspect a pretty penny too?

    Are you there John? Tell us more about this... looks very cool

    Harry Jacobson
    www.harryj.net
     

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