I just got back from the Carlton/Ford show in Seattle. Playing and tones were magnificent. Neither had their dumbles. Robben played a super reverb and a twin reverb, Zen drive, volume and wah. Carlton had 2 twins, his volume pedal, and another (assuming overdrive) pedal which I could not see due to a monitor. Both players sounded exactly like I have heard in the past IMO with their dumble rigs, which lends an edge to the "tone is in the hands" argument. Very enjoyable, albeit short show.