A sports question from someone who doesnt know crap about sports....

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  1. pjrhd28

    pjrhd28 Silver Supporting Member

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    No disrespect, but you're asking the wrong question. Too many variables.

    If you could literally put Babe Ruth in a time machine and have him play today, I don't know if he'd hit well or not.

    But at the time he played. Babe Ruth dominated baseball as much as any player in any era. 12 home run titles (including 6 in a row), 13 times leading his league in OPS, 13 times in slg. pct., the list goes on and on.....

    Ty Cobb won 12 batting titles.

    Also, I'm not so sure that athletes are really all that much bigger, stronger, etc. today that they were years ago. Take the 100 meter dash world record as an example (thus, we have an objective measure of performance- time).

    In 1936, Jesse Owens ran a 10.2 and in 2009, Bolt ran a 9.58. That's only about a 6% improvement. Don't know if other objectively measured (other races, swimming, weightlifting) show a greater improvement or not.
     
  2. bluesoul

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    Bigger, stronger and faster beats smaller, weaker and slower all day long! It is not a fair way to compare because a team from the past in today's world would train very differently.
     
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  3. BlackbirdVintageMusic

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    Well there's not exactly a lot of time that can be shaved off of a 100 meter dash. A better example (re: argument destroyer) is the running of 1 mile.

    During Babe Ruth's time, running it in under 4 minutes was said to be impossible. Same in DiMaggio's era through the 1940's. It was finally accomplished in 1954.

    Nearly 1500 people have done it since, including a couple of 16 year-olds. I would not bet against a woman doing it in our lifetime.

    Athletes are better today.
     
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  4. Wolfgangsta

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    FIFY :D
     
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  5. stevieboy

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    NFL team from the 70s versus NFL team from now, it would make a lot of difference which era's rules they would be playing under. The 70s team would definitely have some advantage with that stipulation.

    I wouldn't say that applies quite so much to other sports.
     
  6. Jonny Hotnuts

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    True but the modern era teams have their own set of advantages. I added the rule stipulation to help level field between eras.

    ~JH
     
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    One thing you have to take into account looking at pro sports from era to era is the sheer number of people that are vying to make it today, and what they go through from an early age to get there. The talent pool is much bigger. There are also more teams of course which dilute it some, but I think overall it's still much more competitive. The money has a lot to do with that too, pro athletes from say the fifties didn't make that much money comparatively and it wasn't quite as attractive an occupation to pursue.

    Golf, I think the best golfers from any era would be pretty well matched, but today the drop-off to the not quite top of hill guys is much less. It's way more competitive from top to bottom.
     
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    Lambeer would be suspended indefinitely under todays rules.
     
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  9. fetishfrog

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    I'd put my money on modern athletes every time and come away a rich man.

    Bigger, stronger, faster will win every time. There's not much to suggest teamwork was better then vs now, and even less to suggest the benefits therein wouldn't be outshined by modern athleticism.

    For some sports, the evolution has been so rapid athletes from a decade ago wouldn't even be competitive today, MMA being the prime example there.

    Is what it is, and not at all disrespectful to the legends of yore.
     
  10. ducker 1

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    It would be interesting to see how Clyde Drexler would fare in today's mamby pamby style NBA
     
  11. Old Possum

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    Just a different time and advances in the amount of roids they use. did seem like the old players gave more thoughts to the fans. today, it's all about the money for them and egos'.
     
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    I think you’d have to look at the technological advancement of equipment as well. Since the 80’s, hockey skates and sticks have improved 100 fold, as has goalie equipment. Look at tennis rackets from the 80’s to today. Shoes, helmets, etc are all lighter and offer way more for player athleticism.
     
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  13. Thedude99

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    For sure. The biggest thing that comes to mind is how much more physical the game was back then, and how much protection players get now.

    Many modern players would fold after the first “proper” challenge.
     
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    It's REALLY difficult to compare eras because there are so many factors that have to be taken into account: training methods, health and nutrition, rules changes, advancements in strategy, equipment, etc.

    I'd rather just enjoy each era for what it is and leave it at that.
     
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    I can say for sure that, in a game of basketball, the 96 Bulls would totally destroy the 2019 Patriots. :D


    I would also pay a lot of money to see that happen.
     
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  16. Yer Blues

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    I think it's impossible to tell. In regards to basketball.... previous championship teams were pretty stacked, too... 96 era Bulls had Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, Ron Harper, Kucok. I think they'd match up pretty well with modern day healthy Warriors or Raptors. 80s Celtics and Lakers were also pretty stacked... Celtics had Bird, McHale, Johnson, Parish and Lakers had Magic, Kareem, Worthy, Byron Scott.
     
  17. newking70

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    I'd like to see the 70s era Raiders take on the wimp era Patriots. Brady wouldn't last a quarter.
     
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    Yup, given the OP’s example, I think the Bulls would crush the Warriors with ‘96 rules and the Bulls would get crushed with modern rules.
     
  19. Vintage_

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    Pretty much where my thinking is as well. Take a look at where men were ~100yrs ago in Track events---they'd be hanging about even with the Women today. Pro athletes today in the big sports are training year-round etc. It's just a completely different level altogether. They would probably get smoked. But that doesn't really take anything away from them--they were Legends in their day.
     
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    nobody knows
     

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