After 30 years... Yeps and nopes

Discussion in 'Guitars in General' started by DGrig, Jul 5, 2018.

  1. Carbohydrates

    Carbohydrates Member

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    Figured I'd do this in a slightly more interesting way (to me) than a list.

    The "best guitar in the world" has a solid color paint job over a lightweight body in any classic shape (strat, tele, LP, SG, etc.) with low-to-moderate output pickups and no trem. It has lightweight, nickel-finished hardware. It has a decently thick rounded neck profile with a slightly narrow nut and a moderately curved fretboard with stainless frets. It has simple, easy-to-reach controls.

    The "worst guitar in the world" is a natural or burst finish over a heavy body with a figured maple top in a chunky or uncomfortable shape. It has a wide, flat neck with fancy abalone inlays, high output pickups, a gold locking trem, any a ton of knobs and switches for things like coil splits and pickup phase.
     
  2. DiPa

    DiPa Constant GAS Silver Supporting Member

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    More Nopes to certain gear as I am getting older and am extremely picky...
     
  3. Mark Robinson

    Mark Robinson Member

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    Yes:
    Heavy guitars
    Light guitars
    Big necks
    skinny necks
    Humbuckers, singles, P-90s, noiseless, illitch,
    4 -12” cabinets and 2-12” cabinets
    Digital reverbs in the loops of tube amps, custom programming
    A moderately indulgent pedalboard
    Marshalls and amps that are similar with master volume and multi channels
    Voxes and similar
    Fenders and similar like Tone Kings
    Red Plates and other similar

    Not as much:
    Combo amps
    Spring Reverb
    NMV large amps, I’m afraid of attenuators, got a bad start with them.
    Getting all dirt from a stomp box
    Amps under 30 watts
    Single 12” speakers
    chorus

    Everything else I’m indifferent to.
     
  4. Plaid Sabbath

    Plaid Sabbath Member

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    Even though I don’t currently have a rig at all (been recovering from some shoulder/nerve damage), I went through way too much gear in the past. Time away from playing and the whole GAS rat race really puts things into perspective. Learned a lot about my likes and dislikes.

    Yes
    Les Paul Jrs.
    Telecasters
    Flying V’s
    Orange amps
    Marshall amps
    Catalinbread Naga Viper
    Black Arts Toneworks Pharaoh
    MXR Carbon Copy delay
    Jameson Irish Whiskey
    Laphroaig Scotch

    No
    Digital modelers (I’ve tried several...just don’t dig all the tweaking)
    Floyd Rose trems
    Les Paul’s w/humbuckers
    Strats (love the sound but I can’t find one that feels right to me)
    Boutique amps
    Boutique guitars
    PRS guitars
    Ibanez guitars
    EMG pickups
    Any piece of gear that costs more than $1500
    Jazzmasters, Jaguars or any other offset
    Grown men over the age of 18 who wear backward baseball caps
     
  5. sahhas

    sahhas Supporting Member

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    I sort of come at it as a visual artist, for me there are no rules, why confine yourself? If it sounds good, it is good...
     
  6. TheThirdChild

    TheThirdChild Member

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    Are you sure it wasn't the literal 18x jump in price difference?

    An 18000 dollar Ford is gonna beat a 1000 dollar BMW in any race on any day, and yet at equal price you'd be stupid not to bet on the BMW.
     
  7. Magnets And Melodies

    Magnets And Melodies Member

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    So your next guitar is going to be a 2018 LP Standard then? Lol.
     
  8. Magnets And Melodies

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    I don't get caught up about price anymore. I want good sound, period. I'm not going to hold myself back from getting the sound I want because the mic doesn't sound "18x better" than my SM57.

    We've all been at this game for a long time. It's called the gear page for a reason. Anybody purchasing gear as much as people on this forum is going to know fully well about the law of diminishing returns, and that yes, at the higher end we may be paying thousands for small minuit & very specific details.

    I don't look at it as a race, and I don't look at it as a bet. I sure as hell don't look at it like, "this costs 10x more so it must be 10x better". There is no degree of "better"... There simply are sounds I'm looking for and sounds I'm not. The sounds I'm looking for unfortunately are so frustratingly specific that it usually results in me spending way more money than I'd like on gear, but I've come to terms with that a long time ago.

    At the end of the day though I've learnt it has nothing to do with how much something costs. More $$$ is not a factor that contributes to not "better sound". I spend so much time searching for gear that sounds the way I imagine my music sounding in my head. When I find it in ecstatic.. then I look at the price tag. Sometimes I'm lucky and it's not that expensive but more times than not I just know it's gonna hit me in the wallet.
     
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  9. Artie Fisk

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    Yeps:
    *Fully-hollow guitars with single-coils (a vintage ES-330/Epiphone Casino is on my bucket list), including vintage Fender Coronados, the Univox Coily, and a number of others.
    *Most hollow and semi-hollow electric guitars, really.
    *Valco-made, wood-bodied guitars (a National Westwood 75 was maybe the best-sounding plug-and-play guitar I've ever owned).
    *Vintage Jazzmasters and Jaguars, the pickups associated with those guitars, and the floating trem systems associated with them as well.
    *The Squier J. Mascis Jazzmaster. Best necks on a sub-$500 guitar I've ever encountered.
    *Old Gibsons with P-90s. All of them.
    *Matsumoku-made instruments.
    *Vintage (pre-1970) Epiphones.
    *Chunky necks.
    *Gold foil pickups.
    *P-90s.
    *P-13s (DAMN!).
    *Tube-driven amps, preamps, and effects.
    *Vintage Ampeg amps (blue tolex), especially the Gemini series.
    *Sano amps.
    *Fender Pro Reverbs, Deluxes, Princetons, and Champs, blackface or silverface.
    *Actually, any pre-1980 Fender tube amp, pretty much, although I don't have much use for high wattage.
    *Vintage Magnatone amps, and any other old amps with varistor-based true vibrato.
    *Tape echo.
    *Good tape echo emulation like the CB Belle Epoch.
    *Oil can delays and emulations thereof, especially the CB Adineko.
    *Oil can tremolo, like the DeArmond Tremolo Control (also on my bucket list - they don't turn up often, at least not around here).
    *EHX Wiggler. Noisy and difficult, but nothing else comes close. The Wurlitzer electric piano vibrato setting is KILLER.
    *Vintage Danelectros, whether Dano-branded, or Silvertone-branded.
    *Vintage Kays & Harmonys.

    Nopes:
    *Anything PRS
    *Gibsons after 1985.
    *Digital modeling systems and amps.
    *Digital distortion or fuzz of any kind.
    *Multi-effect units of any kind.
    *Pointy "shredder" guitars of any kind.
    *People who talk about "chops."
    *Locking whammy bar systems.
    *Active pickups.

    I guess you can kind of see where this is going, so I'll stop now.
     
  10. macmax77

    macmax77 Supporting Member

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    Yes: What I have is great and don't need to buy anything else
    Nope: No more gear, I better start playing again!
     

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