Let me clarify what I meant. I'm not calling him stupid because he thought the dimensions were different. No problem with that at all; he misunderstood the dimensions, and I misunderstood what the catalogs meant. Yes, I learned something from this. I'm trying to point out that even after I sent him a picture of the tape measure next to the speakers, he continued to say that they are unqeustionably 11" long. He maintains that the tape measure is incorrect. I have no problem with him questioning my knowledge; I'm hardly an expert on these amps. As for Valco, this is actually another one of many inconsistencies between the catalogs and the actual products. They weren't stupid, just inconsistent. I'm guessing the speakers were called 6X11s just because that sounded bigger and better than 6X9s. If you think that "stupid" is too harsh a word, ok, I understand that. Perhaps "stubborn beyond reason" is more apt. I'm not trying to label the guy as an all-around idiot or smear him, just trying to relate what I thought was an amusing conversation.