Alex Van Halens performance on the new VH?

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  1. carbz

    carbz Supporting Member

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    You know everyone seems to be talking about Ed, Dave and Wolfie for the most part but not much has been said about Al's performance. Though I love Alex's playing in general I find the more I listen to the tunes on this record I find him just overplaying too much. On top of that I think some of his choice of using the ride vs high-hats in some parts is not helping. Anyone else hear it this way or am I just imagining this?
     
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    carbz,

    I disagree. I LOVE what he play on this record. And, the sound of his drum kit is fabulous. The snare sounds awesome. He's really tight with Wolfgang and Ed. I think he's as good as ever.

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    Well actually from what the Australian and Zealand friends have released so far it sounds as though Alex sound's pretty good.
    I dont hear Hot For Teacher the intro but I do hear quality AVH double bass stylings and like it.
     
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    Alex's performance never needs to be discussed, because he always does a kick a** job! A great, unsung hero in the drumming world.
     
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    If he gets the boot I reckon he will still get a gig. :bonk
     
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    I think it has more to do with production than his actual playing or artistic percussion endeavors. Out of pure curiousity I can't help but speculate what this album may have sounded like with different engineers and producers - how well does the mix and mastering actually gell the recorded material? The album is what it is and we have to accept it's a completely new and difficult album in many ways, especially with wolfgang and a new production team, not a continuation of a formula or youthful innocent drive forwards. I imagine it would be a difficult task to produce this album under the circumstances involved. There's going to be compromises. There seems to be this expectation that ADKOT must be the best VH album ever when all it needs to be is a FUN good album - an album at the least that is better than OU812 and VH3 which indeed it surely is.
     
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    :huh :omg :rotflmao:bonk

    This is just ridiculous. Why do people feel the need to knock everything VH?

    Alex is probably the most underated drummer in all of rock history. The guy is a monster player and his work on this new album is among the best he's played on record.

    He is amazing and I can't fathom anyone not thinking he is incredible.
     
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    Well, TGP has put Ed, Dave and Wolfie under the microscope.....it's about time we analyze the drummer.

    Personally I think he looks like some kind of mafia guy or something.













    :sarcasm
     
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    Don't forget everyone who is suddenly dumping on Mike's bass playing abilities to justify the current line up...
     
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    Umm I never suggested he was anything less then a great drummer I just find the drums a little bit overkill in a few tunes. Too many fills, overload of double kick drum. I usually never question what Al plays but for some reason on this record I'm hearing some percussion a little erratic.
     
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    I was kinda thinking that too .... he is a better drummer than he used to be and stepped it up a notch or two.
     
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    now on to bashing alex..........great drummer with perfect pitch :huh
     
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    ...the only thing I hear and see is I love the way he plays on a smaller kit, like back in the SH years (finish what ya started) and I did see he was using a smaller kit on one of the vids circulating. :aok

    The smaller kits don't sound as boomy to these ole ears.:D:rimshot
     
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    ...or, at least those people who have revised history to make Mike Anthony into the second coming of Stuart Hamm, John Entwistle, Paul McCartney, or Geddy Lee.

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    I agree with the earlier post on the production. I don't like the mixes, or the sound of the production on the new stuff I've heard. It really sounds Garage-Bandy. I think some original Roth-era sounding production/mixing would have helped quiet down a lot of the naysayers here... I'll wait (no pun intended) until I hear the final product multiple times until I fully write it off...but man...they made us wait so long. You would figure they would have had a little bit of help.
     
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    Disagree; I love his performance on the tunes I've heard
     
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    Nah, Eddie only has 1 kid, so Alex is safe for now. :p
     
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    2 times through the album so far. Alex is kicking major butt.....I dont think there has been a VH album where the drums have been as good as this.

    The AVH/WVH rhythm section is huge on this record and its great to hear it
     
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    I'm ok with the drums on this album so far; still want to hear the actual CD when it comes out and play it loud (and often).

    I actually liked his drum sound A LOT on VH III; sounded like the drums were 'closer' and tighter rather than 'huge and in the background.' Sounded terrible on 'Carnal Knowledge' (like big, boomy, empty oil barrels).

    The dude is seriously talented, though; originally played guitar before Eddie and is a classically trained pianist. I'd love to hear HIM do an instrumental album sometime. Always underrated; he's a very solid rhythm player and works for every song.
     

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